If I was going deer or ELK with one rifle I would be on the 7mag or 300 wm side
But I would leave the mountain trolls be
But I would leave the mountain trolls be
Ah, the 30-06 and its siblings: mighty fine. The 35 Whelen is a great one often overlooked. I have a 358 Winchester. 10 deer this year (managed lease). 358 is a great one and the 35 Whelen is just MORE! If you reload, the brass for either is basically free as 308 and 30-06 brass is laying around every range.I would leave the .28 alone, as it is unnecessary for either elk or deer. A ton of hunters in Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho use 270, 30-06. You would shoot the Creed more easily and with right load, factory or handload, it would do the job in an awful lot of elk hunting. Why get a caliber that is suspected of having short barrel life for an all-around gun. If it was me, and it isn't, I would get a .35 Whelen. which is exactly what I did when I lived in Wyoming. I shot Pronghorn antelope, deer-both Whitetails and Mule deer, elk, and with light handloaded .357 bullets, grouse. I used a 250 grain handload that was about the same as the .35 Whelen Remington Factory Load in that bullet weight. If you want to avoid any changes in factory ammo availability, shoot a .30-06.
The meat damage on all of the above game was minimal. One of the bull elk I shot with the .35 Whelen was at 300 yds and a nearly 7/8 head on shot. The .250 grain bullet hit between the neck and shoulder and was found against the femur bone in the opposite side hind leg. Not a huge wound channel but the bullet went to several feet of important elk parts. It didn't throw him to the ground, but he laid down within 20 ft. I know 06 level cartridges are not flashy, but they do real work and are easy to shoot. If you have the money to buy and shoot the .28, buy two rifles, one for deer and one for elk. Good shooting!
This is the most ******** I have ever seen on a gun forumFriends don't let friends buy 28 Noslers. There are several WAY better options. Since the Op question is too broad, vague and opinion based to answer directly, let me say that the 28 Nosler was designed to shoot 168 gr like a laser. In fairness, with added freebore it is a beast with 195's for sure (or you could just shoot 100 rds for barrel break-in and would then gain enough throat erosion to seat long bullets). In the encyclopedia next to the word "overbore" is a picture of the 28 Noz. The chamber is so poorly designed that after every box of cartridges fired (20) the free bore is measurably longer. If you consider the cost of a decent barrel, chambering and smith work, call it $800, it costs $2 in barrel life with every shot.
there will be lots of retorts to this post, but there is no good reason to settle on a 28 Nosler.
Wow. I have built and shot a bunch of 28 Nosler and don't agree. definitely don't need 100 rounds to break one in. not overbore. It's a rocket, but not overboreFriends don't let friends buy 28 Noslers. There are several WAY better options. Since the Op question is too broad, vague and opinion based to answer directly, let me say that the 28 Nosler was designed to shoot 168 gr like a laser. In fairness, with added freebore it is a beast with 195's for sure (or you could just shoot 100 rds for barrel break-in and would then gain enough throat erosion to seat long bullets). In the encyclopedia next to the word "overbore" is a picture of the 28 Noz. The chamber is so poorly designed that after every box of cartridges fired (20) the free bore is measurably longer. If you consider the cost of a decent barrel, chambering and smith work, call it $800, it costs $2 in barrel life with every shot.
there will be lots of retorts to this post, but there is no good reason to settle on a 28 Nosler.
Not well suited for deer especially if you want to eat them.This is the most ******** I have ever seen on a gun forum
Give Kirby Allen a ring on his 7mm ALlen express and shoot a 195 berger @ 3300 fps and get his quote on barrel life if you think a 28 Nosler is the definition of overbore. I have a 7RUM with 668 rounds on the barrel and it's doing 1/2 MOA.... I guess the 28 Nosler is worse on barrels than the RUM or a 7-338 lapua improved? Posts like yours are the reason you have to take anything on a gun forum with a grain of salt.
How about you don't use a long range round on close range deer and it'll be fine? 600 yard 28 nosler = 100 yard 7-08. Yet nobody says a 708 prohibits eating deer? You recommend a 6.5 CM? That's a near 7-08 ballistic match ? What exactly are you trying to say? Do you even know?Not well suited for deer especially if you want to eat them.