I am just going to post this here and let discussion flow....

[436]

I believe the 1st Amendment is gone because the left wing, radical liberals own the national media!! The 1st Amendment is gone. They couldn't defeat it, so they bought it!! When the 2nd Amendment goes the rest of the U.S. Congress will be worthless. Incrementalism is slowly eroding the 2nd Amendment, just a "little" bite at a time.

I always fall back on Thomas Jefferson's letter to William Stephens Smith

"**Thomas Jefferson's letter to William Stephens Smith (November 13, 1787)** is a well-known one, written from Paris while Jefferson was serving as U.S. Minister to France.

William Stephens Smith was John Adams' secretary (and later son-in-law). Jefferson thanks him for sending a copy of the newly proposed U.S. Constitution and comments on it, while addressing **Shays' Rebellion** in Massachusetts. The letter is famous for the "Tree of Liberty" passage.

### Key Excerpts (Famous "Tree of Liberty" Passage)
> "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13 states independent 11 years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

### Context
- Jefferson discusses the proposed Constitution (mixed views: some good articles, some bad, especially concerns about a powerful executive).
- He downplays Shays' Rebellion as not a serious threat to the republic and sees occasional popular uprisings as healthy for liberty.
- He criticizes British propaganda exaggerating American "anarchy."



Sometimes we just have to do what must be done. As someone once said, "I'm willing to die to keep my freedoms; the question is, are you willing to die trying to take them?" Cheers

 

[RWE]

I think that this phrase can be attributed to Charleton Heston, when he served as President of the N.R.A. during the 1990's, the Bill Clinton Regime years.
"They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers"

Absolutely correct.

 

[Alibiiv]

I always fall back on Thomas Jefferson's letter to William Stephens Smith

"**Thomas Jefferson's letter to William Stephens Smith (November 13, 1787)** is a well-known one, written from Paris while Jefferson was serving as U.S. Minister to France.

William Stephens Smith was John Adams' secretary (and later son-in-law). Jefferson thanks him for sending a copy of the newly proposed U.S. Constitution and comments on it, while addressing **Shays' Rebellion** in Massachusetts. The letter is famous for the "Tree of Liberty" passage.

### Key Excerpts (Famous "Tree of Liberty" Passage)
> "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13 states independent 11 years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

### Context
- Jefferson discusses the proposed Constitution (mixed views: some good articles, some bad, especially concerns about a powerful executive).
- He downplays Shays' Rebellion as not a serious threat to the republic and sees occasional popular uprisings as healthy for liberty.
- He criticizes British propaganda exaggerating American "anarchy."



Sometimes we just have to do what must be done. As someone once said, "I'm willing to die to keep my freedoms; the question is, are you willing to die trying to take them?" Cheers

This is a great letter, thank you for posting it. What I sense is that there are certain political factions or left-ring "states" who are willing to go right to the " very edge" of rebellion to achieve their political agenda. With such a condition in existence, some day, there is going to be a situation where that political faction or left-wing state is going to push "just" a little too far and just enough to cause someone/some faction to snap and retaliate. The sleeping lion will get awakened! From this "retaliatory" response a domino effect will take effect. It is going to be a modern day "Boston tea party"! No different than the Colonial days, and then history is going to repeat itself.

 

[AussieWriter]

Yep, that moron, Marxist! Kiros is a mental train wreck. I don't think she could rub two sticks and get heat... The communists keep pushing, like the camel's nose under the tent, and if the spineless libtard Democrats don't get a handle on this, their tent is going to look like a Red Square meeting in 1975
The question is: what brain-dead sycophant tool would vote for these people? I know, it's the useful idiots and the basement-dwelling hot-pocket-eating army that can't leave home like Kiros was, was an attorney, fired due to her insane remarks. 30 years old, no real job, and going to college not to get educated but rather indoctrinated; we have a real problem with our college professors; most of them are Marxist, atheist, American-hating "S" bags. Just my 0.02 Cheers

They are never elected by a majority. They only win when voters don't ahow up and hand then the seat on a platter. The recent NY elections only attracted 11% turnout. Apathy is the communists' friend and the greatest enemy of freedom.

Either way, you can blame the electorate for the outcome.

 

[RockyMtnMT]

They are never elected by a majority. They only win when voters don't ahow up and hand then the seat on a platter. The recent NY elections only attracted 11% turnout. Apathy is the communists' friend and the greatest enemy of freedom.

Either way, you can blame the electorate for the outcome.

This is right on. The power is still at the ballot box. I believe the right is by far the majority but has a terrible problem with turn out on election day. If we don't vote we will end up fighting. It is much easier to vote!

 

[436]

This is a great letter, thank you for posting it. What I sense is that there are certain political factions or left-ring "states" who are willing to go right to the " very edge" of rebellion to achieve their political agenda. With such a condition in existence, some day, there is going to be a situation where that political faction or left-wing state is going to push "just" a little too far and just enough to cause someone/some faction to snap and retaliate. The sleeping lion will get awakened! From this "retaliatory" response a domino effect will take effect. It is going to be a modern day "Boston tea party"! No different than the Colonial days, and then history is going to repeat itself.

I don't believe you're far from the truth; there is a point where people get fed up, and a point of no return, so to speak, kind of like the "shot heard round the world" the opening shot of the Battles of Lexington and Concord on April 19, 1775, only this time it is against an invading army of our own making, but I digress. In our social fabric, you can see the change starting to happen through our information platforms, in the form of books and movies; one such movie, "Citizen Vigilante," a movie that is gaining world popularity just from its trailer. It's not hard to figure out why, because it's pointed dead at the social problems of today, not just here but around the world. Our revolution was only 250 years ago; that's actually a blink of an eye in time. Something is coming, whether it's man-made or spiritual; if you look down the tunnel, you can see the light already.
Happy 4th to all. America is the great place in the world; let's hope we can hold on to it. God bless all! Cheers

The trailer.

 

[cj4a nz]

So the guy having the guns taken away is the Bishop??

A self appointed bishop with his own apostles and made hi own "church"

And he is not in the US and in NZ we don't have the constitution that the US has.

 

[RWE]

Thank you cj4a nz, I appreciate you local input.

I do understand he is NZ'er and that y'all don't have the constitution we are fortunate to have here in the US, but will have to look into him and what he actually said about the mass immigration.

I do know that we need to fight it here but I am afraid it is too late, time will tell.

Thanks again!

 

[Valek]

That's why I had to flee commy Illinois! 5 generations of my family lived there. But you never want to be surrounded and outnumbered, or be the tallest nail you might get pounded. That's why I live in South Missouri.
Im by no means the craziest hillbilly in my neighborhood.

I think that's why our son and daughter-in-law moved from IL to Macomb, MO.