Been shooting Barnes exclusively for 18 years. Not a bad thing to say about them and I've killed over 100 critters with them. Recently bought some of the Hammer HHT's for my 308 Win. I can say this, I've never shot a 100 yard group as small as I did with the Hammers. The group was .179" at 100 yards. Very little load development either. Took 12 shots to find that group and that was sighting my rifle in as well. So far I'm impressed but I'll know more about them this fall. Going to buy some Shock Hammer Bullets for my 45-70 soon as well. May pickup some more HHT's for my 6.5 CM to.