I have heard a lot of good things about the Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44 and was considering one with the Rapid Z 800 reticle. However I learned that Leupold is coming out with a new "MOA" reticle so I put my plans on hold. I spoke with a guy at Leupold who described it to me and when I asked if he was sure of one detail he said "I should be - I designed it". So there is some credibility there. First time I spoke to him he said it would be coming out late fall early winter this year. I checked back again recently and was told it has been held up by "legal" and they now anticipate availabillity in spring of '13. Just thought you guys would like to know.