I shoot all of the aforementioned. Hunting and F-class. The 6.5PRC and 7PRC are not based on the same cartridge. 7PRC is an entirely different "beast". I Shoot a straight 284 for hunting and f-class. With 180's a common node is 2820' with 4350. Converted my backup 284 to 6.5PRC/7mm. No-turn neck and expand up to 7mm which is very accurate for unformed brass. My node is 2965' with 4350 and 30" tube. Conversion just entailed chambering new barrel and obtaining magnum bolt for my BAT Nuevo. Simple-simple...Eric in DL
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Nobody does. That's why they verify their loads in their rifle.
DOPE.... data on previous engagement. Ballistics calculators only run the math.
You better be feeding it verified data to start with. This is why the 4DOF calculator has
a chart that will show you where "your rifle" is shooting compared to 1000's of others.
My main question still is, "Has anyone else shot the 6.5 PRC vs the 7 PRC to see if the drop is close to 3.8 MOA
less on the 7 than the 6.5 at 1000 yards?"
@bluedog69 Literally millions of people trust ballistic solvers.
Provided good info it will be within a tenth or two at most.
If you don't want to trust them I suppose that's up to you but at this point is just ignorant.
Provided good info it will be within a tenth or two at most.
If you don't want to trust them I suppose that's up to you but at this point is just ignorant.
Most definitely.Trust but.....verify
My point is it's 100% reliable enough to judge performance, You don't need to shoot them side by side out to 1000 to figure it out.
BrentM
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I have a run a 7 mag side by side to the 6.5 PRC. The speeds are very similar in the 7 mag to the 7 PRC. I run a 180 berger at 2950-3000 and a 168 at 3050 in a 26". My 6.5 PRC in a 22" runs a 156 at 2915 and 135 at 3100.
So, the 7 mag running 3000 with a 180 vs a 6.5 PRC running a 135 at 3100......
19.5 moa vs 19.7 moa. = .2
A 156 at 2915 is 22.1. vs 19.5 = 2.6
A 153 A Tip is 21.2. vs 19.5 = 1.7
I have not tested the 147 in the PRC, shot a pile in my 6.5-284 at 3020 in the 28". Killed a lot of wolves with those : )
I don't have a longer barrel 6.5 PRC, just 18 and 22. I have 24, 26, 28, 6.5-284's. I know I can get more speed in a longer barrel PRC but I have what I have for direct comparison. If I was building a long action magnum 7 it would be a PRC. A standard would be a 280AI.
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Good to see ya Cakes!
I was in a PD yard the other day that even you couldn't load enough ammo for
Maybe see you the 3rd week of May for fly fish'n crappie
So finally some data. So you think the 6.5 vs the 7mm vs the 300 PRC is flawed? They show about 35 to 40 inch advantage of the 7 over the other two.
So is their data correct or wrong?
See the video I posted.
Panhandle Pete
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I have several options in my gun room- Sako action 7mm Weatherby Shilen 26 inch 1x8 twist #4 weight barrel - Stiller Predator action , 284 Win 26 inch Schneider Varmit weight 1x8 twist - Rem 700 ADL 280 AI Shilen # 4 weight 1x9 twist- heck guys there are lots of ways to get their without going to the new kid on the block. I like them all along with my 260 AI, just shoot job specific on game and bullet weight. MY 2 cents
BrentM
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I don't think it's flawed. It's just a data set and we all know things can affect the data for each test. There is no doubt the 7 is worthy and out performs the 6.5 in most cases. It's a trade off in terms of recoil etc
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I'd price getting a new bolt from GW versus having a smith open up your current bolt. I've had several very good shooting rifles with bolts that were opened up, so it works ok. If you change barrels you bolt will have to be timed anyway so a new bolt isn't a huge deal from that perspective. Good luck with your build.
slam2107
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Good job Brent keep working on those wolves
I have only shot 2 Elk first with a 300SM at 510 yards and my 5x5 at 100 with my 6.5x284. My wife also has 2 first 200 yards 2nd at 365 both with her 30.06. We are from Wisconsin so Elk hunting is a big expense for us. We are both60 years old so running out of time. We try to go every other year if we can save enough money. Next year we are going to Alaska for Dall Sheep and Grizzly. As far as practice goes we typically shoot in the 3-400 yard range. Not many places around us where you can shoot farther. When we do shoot it's at a gravel pit. Where we shoot up or down the piles off of our back packs after climbing the piles trying to simulate being in the mountains.
