Biggest Bore...Heaviest Hitter...Long Range

Who says it has to be 30 cal, big bore and heavy grain bullet ? Type of bullet, speed and placement is what kills. My 6.5SS with 125 grain Badlands solid copper bullets at 700 yards is traveling 2200' per second and has 1400 ft lbs of energy with far less recoil. I've killed multiple elk with it over 500 yards. I have video someplace I'll look for on a moose at 520 yards
 
Being you want a shorter barrel I suggest the 338 win mag. I have a long throat reamer and it is not a 340 but not too far behind. It matches the over hyped 33 nosler with a lot less fuss. The 338 gives you more bore to be efficient. And with the 213 hammer is a real slammer. With a 3 weight brux it would be accurate and light.
 
Hello:
I'm looking for opinions on what caliber you would recommend for ranges out to 650 yards or so, using 180 grain bullets, or similar. It would be strictly for hunting, in a bolt action, and be delivered via a 20-22" barrel...without a muzzle break. The lighter the better , and no, recoil is not an issue. i'm looking for a heavy hitter in the .30 caliber class.
The .338 was the first thing that came to mind though I am hopeful for feedback. I love short barreled big bore rifles, and with a thumbhole stock I feel at one wit my gun,
Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Hello:
I'm looking for opinions on what caliber you would recommend for ranges out to 650 yards or so, using 180 grain bullets, or similar. It would be strictly for hunting, in a bolt action, and be delivered via a 20-22" barrel...without a muzzle break. The lighter the better , and no, recoil is not an issue. i'm looking for a heavy hitter in the .30 caliber class.
The .338 was the first thing that came to mind though I am hopeful for feedback. I love short barreled big bore rifles, and with a thumbhole stock I feel at one wit my gun,
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
I have been fortunate for the last 35 years to have had the opportunity to deer hunt on our farm. Hay fields with partially grown up pasture with shots maximum distance of 1000 yards with most shots 250-600 yards. Also I am fortunate to fit and chamber rifles myself, which allowed me to try different cartridges and different bullets. I have learned that sectional density may be more important than ballistic coefficient. That is not so much as how well the bullet cuts through the air, but the relationship of the length to the diameter. It basically applies to every caliber. Have used 30-378 with 180 grain and can achieve 3475 fps. Hunting also with 338 weatherby and 338 RUM propels the 180 grain 3725 fps, with much more "smackability" as even though bullet weight is the same the bigger neck opening allows for more velocity and also it sectional density is less which allows to expend its energy all at once as opposed to the 30 caliber 180 having a higher sectional density which has allowed pass throughs. Shot one deer at 190 yards and the 180 passed through and killed 2nd deer standing behind it dropping it but 1st deer ran 150 yards. The 338 180 grain is much more effective. To achieve similar results in the 30 caliber I went to 125 grain bullet at 4050 fps. I almost ordered a reamer for 378 weatherby (RUM provides same velocities) and have read it is a very good cartridge. May still try it.
 
Hello:
I'm looking for opinions on what caliber you would recommend for ranges out to 650 yards or so, using 180 grain bullets, or similar. It would be strictly for hunting, in a bolt action, and be delivered via a 20-22" barrel...without a muzzle break. The lighter the better , and no, recoil is not an issue. i'm looking for a heavy hitter in the .30 caliber class.
The .338 was the first thing that came to mind though I am hopeful for feedback. I love short barreled big bore rifles, and with a thumbhole stock I feel at one wit my gun,
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
300 win mag 180-200 grain hits like a train😎
 
Well my way of thinking is the B.C. on .338 caliber, 180 grain bullets are terrible. You'd be much better going with a much heavier bullet or, going to a 30 caliber if you're stuck on 180's.
Like posted before, the 300 WSM is a great match with 180's.
 
A very important point to consider, both for trajectory and weight, is altitude. If you go Asia, you might be easily hunting around 10.000; oxygen percent is low, and 1 more lb in your rifle can be critical. In Africa, and I did it a lot, the right way is the biggest you can effectively manage
 
There is a lot of difference between "Dangerous Game" laws in Africa and hunting goats and deer-like animals in the Caucus region.

Clearly, there are a lot of options to consider in caliber choice here. Do you need an Uber-Magnum, not really. Personally, I tend to think of mid-range magnums.

A 358 Norma Magnum (yes 338WM necked up) would be a good place to start. If you look at EU and specifically Scandanavian hunters, the 358 Norma Magnum and similar cartridges have a long history of good performance in similar conditions (or a bit closer) on aminals as big or bigger than you are looking at.

Personally, I don't want a huge flash of unburned powder and the muzzle blast for no gain or very little gain you get with the modern "wonder" magnums burning large amounts of powder for more recoil and very little velocity gain in a shorter barrel.

I hunt black bear with a 35 Whelen, if I were going to Alaska on a bear hunt, I think I would go with the .358 Norma Magnum. Many years ago, when dinosaurs were walking the earth, I had one built on a Winchester model 70 action, most accurate rifle I ever owned. I think the .358 Norma mag is one of the most overlooked cartridges on the market today.
 
Hello:
I'm looking for opinions on what caliber you would recommend for ranges out to 650 yards or so, using 180 grain bullets, or similar. It would be strictly for hunting, in a bolt action, and be delivered via a 20-22" barrel...without a muzzle break. The lighter the better , and no, recoil is not an issue. i'm looking for a heavy hitter in the .30 caliber class.
The .338 was the first thing that came to mind though I am hopeful for feedback. I love short barreled big bore rifles, and with a thumbhole stock I feel at one wit my gun,
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
First thing comes to mind....think of this a MULTIPLE CHOICE TEST...as it is....what did your teachers TELL YOU? Always go with your FIRST ANWSER! 338 LAPUA!
 
I'm over here wondering where those of you who are shooting custom/non mainstream calibers that must be hand loaded are finding primers lol.
When you get off the teat of factory ammo and rely on yourself generally you stock up on em. Also we are taking hunting rifles. I have many and shoot them all throughout the year but that's maybe 100 rounds a year per gun. Before everyone lost their minds you could get 1000 for $35-$45 depending on where so most of us "non mainstream cartridge people" are less affected than a person who must use factory ammo.
 
Hello:
I'm looking for opinions on what caliber you would recommend for ranges out to 650 yards or so, using 180 grain bullets, or similar. It would be strictly for hunting, in a bolt action, and be delivered via a 20-22" barrel...without a muzzle break. The lighter the better , and no, recoil is not an issue. i'm looking for a heavy hitter in the .30 caliber class.
The .338 was the first thing that came to mind though I am hopeful for feedback. I love short barreled big bore rifles, and with a thumbhole stock I feel at one wit my gun,
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Fastest and hardest 30 cal hitter is the 30-378 weatherby magnum. Read the articles on what it was designed for and was purpose built to originally be the military's ultimate sniper rifle for 1,200 or to + 2,000 yds. Original goal was to push a 200 gr 212gr to 4,200 fps. Came close. 200gr at 4,000 fps but barrel life is horrendous. I can get 500 quality shots pushing a 210gr ABLR at 3,627 fps before rebarreling. I'm running a 29" barrel.
 
Hello:
I'm looking for opinions on what caliber you would recommend for ranges out to 650 yards or so, using 180 grain bullets, or similar. It would be strictly for hunting, in a bolt action, and be delivered via a 20-22" barrel...without a muzzle break. The lighter the better , and no, recoil is not an issue. i'm looking for a heavy hitter in the .30 caliber class.
The .338 was the first thing that came to mind though I am hopeful for feedback. I love short barreled big bore rifles, and with a thumbhole stock I feel at one wit my gun,
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
I've always liked the good old .30-06. I've shot deer at 800 yards with no problem. The recoil is manageable and factory ammo is normally available anywhere. That being said I am looking into the 300PRC as an option for my next build. (.338 RUM is on the list as well). I have a long action magnum receiver and a stock just need to find a trigger, scope and figure out what caliber to go with.
 
You have gotten a lot of good advice. Two things come to mind in your cartridge discussion. One you mentioned 30 caliber and two a 20 inch barrel. That to me raises a hand full of Cartridges to the top and eliminates several as well. If you are going to go with a 20" barrel there is no need to consider any of the super magnums because you want have enough barrel to burn up all that excess powder and thus gain no real advantage. Just because you can take the recoil does not mean you should, if it gains no real advantage. You stated you wanted a heavy hitter out to 650 yards. I am going to assume we are hunting moose or elk or large bears, so we need as a rule of thumb 1500lbs of energy. That said any of the following will do the job more than sufficiently 308, 30/06, 30/06 Improved, 300 WM, 338 WM. Hard to move away from the tried and true for the purposes you stated and any of these, under normal circumstances, will have factory ammo readily available just about anywhere in the world should you find yourself in need. I like my Gucci cartridges but the ones I take with me on trips to Alaska or Africa are the tried and true 308, 270 win, 7x57, 300WM, and 375 H&H. Though not as easy to find ammo for another good consideration if your just set on something else or a short action would be the 300 WSM. JMO
 
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