Ultimatum Precision actions

[atl5029]

Have any of you out there heard of this new custom action company? I just started seeing them on Facebook. They seem brand spankin' new, so I don't think there will be much out there in terms of reviews, but I just wanted to bring it to all of your attention and hear some initial thoughts.

I'd post the website but it seems to be down. They have a Facebook page though.

What do y'all think?

 

[Rich Coyle]

What material? How many lugs?

 

[atl5029]

The web site is back up. here it is

https://www.ultimatumprecision.com/

They're a 3 lug floating bolt head design that fits in a Rem 700 footprint

 

[Rich Coyle]

They don't list a weight.

 

[Barrelnut]

I'm liking it. Would love to be able to screw a prefit barrel onto something with a Jewell or Timney trigger and a 60% degree bolt throw, then stick it in any Remington stock out there!

 

[atl5029]

I'm liking it. Would love to be able to screw a prefit barrel onto something with a Jewell or Timney trigger and a 60% degree bolt throw, then stick it in any Remington stock out there!

That was my thinking too. I have a couple pre-fit barrels on Savage actions and they are both very accurate. It's like they married the best of the Savage action and the Rem 700 action with a 3 lug design in a precision machined custom action format. I like it.

 

[fmajor]

Sweet looking receiver.

I'd be curious about the material, detailed specs, etc. The price certainly looks good - especially considering an integral lug (a big selling point for me).

It would also be nice to have a machinist or a reputable gunsmith/builder go through one just to see how well it was machined.

Thanks for the linky - it's a definitely a well-designed unit.

 

[atl5029]

They are 4340 steel. I'm a little rusty on my engineering materials, but I know the 4XXX series steels are all high quality steels.

 

[Anschutz]

If one of you would send me the action, barrel, and stock. I'd give you a report on it.

 

[FEENIX]

That was my thinking too. I have a couple pre-fit barrels on Savage actions and they are both very accurate. It's like they married the best of the Savage action and the Rem 700 action with a 3 lug design in a precision machined custom action format. I like it.

Custom action manufacturer's are finally realizing what the Savage ingenious floating bolt design has to offer. Big Horn - Zermatt ArmsZermatt Arms and Mausingfield Bolt Action did similar thing.

I have a BHA LA SR2 in my custom build .30 Lara and am very impressed with it.

It would also be nice to have a machinist or a reputable gunsmith/builder go through one just to see how well it was machined.

I agree! My gunsmith did exactly that with my BHA LA SR2 and was very impressed with it. My rifle was his first build on the BHA action.

 

[fmajor]

Custom action manufacturer's are finally realizing what the Savage ingenious floating bolt design has to offer. Big Horn - Zermatt ArmsZermatt Arms and Mausingfield Bolt Action did similar thing.

I have a BHA LA SR2 in my custom build .30 Lara and am very impressed with it.



I agree! My gunsmith did exactly that with my BHA LA SR2 and was very impressed with it. My rifle was his first build on the BHA action.

Your's is an opinion i trust to be truthful and free from "fan-boy" bias and am pleased to learn the free-floating bolt face is able to achieve excellent results. It has some desirable attributes.

I can't remember the "who" or even when, but i was having a chat w/someone about the floating bolt receivers. He was saying that the floating bolt simply was not/could not be as accurate as a Rem 700 type bolt.

I thought that was hogwash.... as in my experience (limited as it may be) the barrel has the single largest affect on accuracy (so long as the chamber is in alignment with the bolt face).

Anyway, the Ultimatum Precision receiver looks to have some great design inclusions.

As someone above mention, the receiver was made from a 4000 series steel (standard tool steel properties) which is good, but a lot of a steels properties have to do with how it's tempered which is never discussed in any of the articles generally referenced about rifles.

I was just wondering about the quality of machining and all that is involved with that - not just fit and finish - you can put lipstick on a hog, but it's still a hog.

 

[Rich Coyle]

I can't remember the "who" or even when, but i was having a chat w/someone about the floating bolt receivers. He was saying that the floating bolt simply was not/could not be as accurate as a Rem 700 type bolt.

Your "hog wash" is a good assessment. A few years ago I purchased a cheap plastic stock Savage 26" 9" twist Varmint barrel .223. I worked up a load and fired 10 shots at 200 yards. It measured .880". A friend of mine bought a Remington with a much nicer stock with a barrel very similar to mine. He worked up a load and the best he could do was five shots in 3/4" at 100 yards. He asked me and I couldn't do any better.

He asked what I would do. "I would sell it and buy a Savage." So he did. He bought one that looked like his Remington. The stock was huge. I stuck some of my load in. I fired three shots at 100 yards. The group was 3/8". He fired five and his group measured .400". Same two guys with Remington and Savage.

 

[FEENIX]

Your's is an opinion i trust to be truthful and free from "fan-boy" bias and am pleased to learn the free-floating bolt face is able to achieve excellent results. It has some desirable attributes.

I can't remember the "who" or even when, but i was having a chat w/someone about the floating bolt receivers. He was saying that the floating bolt simply was not/could not be as accurate as a Rem 700 type bolt.

I thought that was hogwash.... as in my experience (limited as it may be) the barrel has the single largest affect on accuracy (so long as the chamber is in alignment with the bolt face).

Anyway, the Ultimatum Precision receiver looks to have some great design inclusions.

As someone above mention, the receiver was made from a 4000 series steel (standard tool steel properties) which is good, but a lot of a steels properties have to do with how it's tempered which is never discussed in any of the articles generally referenced about rifles.

I was just wondering about the quality of machining and all that is involved with that - not just fit and finish - you can put lipstick on a hog, but it's still a hog.

Thank you kindly for the compliment.

The R700 has been around for 50+ years and have had a very good loyal following and unprecedented after market support ... that is one hard fact to deny.

IMHO, there will always be resistance to change. The same resistance to change could very well hinder progress. Savage have pioneered the accutrigger, barrel nut, and the floating bolt head. As we all know some rifle manufacturers have formulated a similar trigger design and barrel nut.

And now custom action manufacturers are exploring the benefits of floating bolt heads. I think it's great that we now have more choices.

Cheers!

Ed

 

[UltimatumPrecision]

Hi guys. Thanks for the interest. 4340 is the materiel used for the receiver and the bolt body. The bolt handle, the shroud and bolt head are 4140. Short Action weight 2.2 LBS. The actions we have built right now use 1-1/16"x16 barrel threads. Rem-age barrels won't fit, due the the counter-bore on the breech face. Pre-fit barrels can still be ordered. We will switch to savage 1-1/16"x20 threads. This way, savage pre-fit match barrels can be used.