edward hogan
Well-Known Member
Why not return your scope to Leupold and get the reticle replaced?
Is it a Mk4 6x20? Can't do much better than that. The mk4 4.5-14x 50mm illuminated is a great all-around scope. The Tactical Milling Reticle with matched turrets is very functional AND Responsive.
Not a big difference between Mils and Moa. The 4.5-14x is really excellent on small receiver rifles and ARs. Not like the .300wby is a small receiver ctg, but for compact size, excellent brightness, and with TMR, a reticle you can just use holdovers in a hurry, and illum too; you can be Fast Responding. If you shoot a 20lb rifle off a tripod, no such concerns, but the scope is lightweight at about 22oz, and the 50mm gives excellent low light recognition.
More critical than your scope is your mount system. If intending to shoot 1000yds or more, then look at Near Mfg's bases and rings. There are alots of competitive priced tactical scopes out there which get touted up. I've owned 2 Nightforce NXS, a Zeiss dialyt, and sold them all. Sight picture on a riflescope don't need to be Zeiss spotter perfect! Your scope is a SIGHT, not a camera lens. Consider the Palma shooters that deilver 1/2 moa groups at 1000yds using micrometer Irons. Maybe a magnification iris for the aperture, but Irons... Your sight picture isn't the superb optical resolution so many chase... What matters is Precision elevation and windage movements and a good clean resolve of the crosshair on your target. You don't need to be able to count the nostril hairs on a bull elk at 800yds.... Maybe being able to count the freckles on his nose is good enough?
The TMR reticle with Illum is very versatile and proven. I have had my MK4s serviced by Leupold and shipped back within 48hrs of their being received in Beaverton(?). Wherever they are in OR. One other thing, be sure to compare warranty service and whether the scopemaker/scopeseller has a technical warranty service center rather than just swapping scopes. Several high $ Euro makers do not service in the USA; and their warranty decisions can be whimsical.... One Euro company I bought a $1400 scope denied my request for service; saying "I took the scope outside and looked through it, seemed okay to me".... Except at low and high magnification, it was like looking through a coke bottle. Calling in to complain about their less than scientific approach, the 2nd banana told me, "Thats okay buddy, you didn't buy this scope to use at low power anyway!"
Nightforce stuff is very good, if you don't mind a scope that is very heavy.
Is it a Mk4 6x20? Can't do much better than that. The mk4 4.5-14x 50mm illuminated is a great all-around scope. The Tactical Milling Reticle with matched turrets is very functional AND Responsive.
Not a big difference between Mils and Moa. The 4.5-14x is really excellent on small receiver rifles and ARs. Not like the .300wby is a small receiver ctg, but for compact size, excellent brightness, and with TMR, a reticle you can just use holdovers in a hurry, and illum too; you can be Fast Responding. If you shoot a 20lb rifle off a tripod, no such concerns, but the scope is lightweight at about 22oz, and the 50mm gives excellent low light recognition.
More critical than your scope is your mount system. If intending to shoot 1000yds or more, then look at Near Mfg's bases and rings. There are alots of competitive priced tactical scopes out there which get touted up. I've owned 2 Nightforce NXS, a Zeiss dialyt, and sold them all. Sight picture on a riflescope don't need to be Zeiss spotter perfect! Your scope is a SIGHT, not a camera lens. Consider the Palma shooters that deilver 1/2 moa groups at 1000yds using micrometer Irons. Maybe a magnification iris for the aperture, but Irons... Your sight picture isn't the superb optical resolution so many chase... What matters is Precision elevation and windage movements and a good clean resolve of the crosshair on your target. You don't need to be able to count the nostril hairs on a bull elk at 800yds.... Maybe being able to count the freckles on his nose is good enough?
The TMR reticle with Illum is very versatile and proven. I have had my MK4s serviced by Leupold and shipped back within 48hrs of their being received in Beaverton(?). Wherever they are in OR. One other thing, be sure to compare warranty service and whether the scopemaker/scopeseller has a technical warranty service center rather than just swapping scopes. Several high $ Euro makers do not service in the USA; and their warranty decisions can be whimsical.... One Euro company I bought a $1400 scope denied my request for service; saying "I took the scope outside and looked through it, seemed okay to me".... Except at low and high magnification, it was like looking through a coke bottle. Calling in to complain about their less than scientific approach, the 2nd banana told me, "Thats okay buddy, you didn't buy this scope to use at low power anyway!"
Nightforce stuff is very good, if you don't mind a scope that is very heavy.
