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Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by cazador1022, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. cazador1022

    cazador1022 Active Member

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    I understand the value and superior performance of modern wildcats and ultra expensive "platforms" (used to be called a rifle).

    I would be very interested in learning about any of you who do long range shooting and hunting with more common FACTORY calibers such as 30.06 Springfield and a regular off the shelf rifle like a Remington 700. Basically something a normal blue collar guy like me could buy.
    As far as glass is concerned, ..Heck some of the scopes I read about cost more than my 2001 Toyota. So for arguments sake, lets say a Leopold or Bushnell or Nikon for glass.

    Any in put in any of these areas would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. kcebcj

    kcebcj Well-Known Member

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    I hunt mule deer and elk with a 30-06 with a self imposed limit of 650 yards with the load I'm presently using and practice out to 800 yards. Took a elk this last season at 489 yards not a long shot but dropped it like a rock.

    Now to start the rifle was a factory Pre 64 Model 70 I bought new in 1963 for 120 bucks. I'm on the third barrel and forth stock. Horses can be hard on stocks. Two years ago the rebuild (Brux barrel McMillan stock and the smith) was about 1100 dollars out the door. This spring am planning on a new Vortex scope just haven't made my mind up as to which one yet but am leaning towards them new HS LR so there is another 800 bucks or so. I like the capped windage turret....fits a scabbard better

    So my advice is find a rifle and caliber you really like new or used and shoot the crap out of it. Maybe work on the trigger and have it bedded if it needs it. Once the barrel is shot out and you have been saving your money and have gained enough knowledge to know what you want re-barrel it along with a new stock and have your smith of choice do his thing and you will end up with a rifle probably more accurate then you can shoot and not have a fortune tied up in it.
     
  3. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    I shoot a basically off the shelf Remington 700 Sendero SF, but as far as caliber goes, its a fairly expensive one to shoot, in 7mmSTW.

    I have a factory Browning A-Bolt II in 7mm Rem Mag that would be long-range capable with a different scope. That's a pretty common gun in a common caliber.

    As for scope goes, you could buy a Konus M-30 for under $500 and buy some TPS picatinny rings and a 1-piece picatinny base for it for under $200, and that would be a pretty solid long-range setup.
     
  4. WildRose

    WildRose Well-Known Member

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    This thread was just made for you.

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/for...etting-started-but-intimidated-dollars-80244/

    You can start with any quality factory rifle from the Rem, Winchester, Weatherby, Tikka, Sako, or a long list of others.

    If I could only own one rifle it would be a 300wm since you can just do anything well with it out to 1,000yds with authority and of course factory ammo and reloading components for it are very easy to come by.

    When it comes to glass, figure out what the most you can afford to spend is, and then save up an extra 200-300.00 and go shopping.

    You can pick up a nice used Leupold VXIII, Vortex Viper, Bushnell Elite, or Zeiss Conquest for 650.00 or less if you are patient and shop well.

    Welcome.
     
  5. Joe King

    Joe King Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much how I've done it, some rifles just evolve over time. My 7mag is now just the original trigger and action. all other parts have been replaced
     
  6. jpd676

    jpd676 Well-Known Member

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    I can't afford a true custom either but I can reach 1000 yards and beyond. I would recommend Savage, but most reputable brands would do just fine. I second the 300 win mag. Just buy a quality scope, that has adjustable turrets that return to zero. Then, go out and shoot. The ballistic calulator on this website will help you extend your range.
     
  7. cazador1022

    cazador1022 Active Member

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    Thank you all.
    I have a Tikka in .300wm but I have a Nikon w BDC reticle.
    I also have a Remington 700 in 30.06 w a Leopold vx3 6.5x20
    I think the basics are covered, I just have to PUT IN THE WORK and practice.

    I am tempted to switch the scopes and put a Leopold on the Tikka.
    1-What do you guys think?
    2-Also should I get the custom turrets from Leopold?

    Again, thank you all.
     
  8. WildRose

    WildRose Well-Known Member

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    Put it on whichever of the two shoots the best groups for you at 100yds.

    I wouldn't suggest custom turrets but for about 130.00 buck you can send it in to Leupold and they'll install either target or M1 turrets for you.

    Custom turrets are a nice shortcut, the problem is you need different turrets anytime you change loads or substantially change elevation and conditions.
     
  9. roninflag

    roninflag Well-Known Member

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    Cazador/hunter- the 6.5-20 leup is an awesome scope. getting factory rifles with factory to shoot good at long range can be challenging/ frustrating. by simply adding a krieger barrel to a remington 700 it can save a LOT of TIMe and FRUSTration and ammuntion cost. it is not work ; my krieger barrels - i pour some powder in case, crunch a bullet on it , viihoola, .5 inch groups. some factory rifles i know will work- are the remington sendero and the winchester laredo. my son inlaw won the first 1000 yard match he shot in with a winchester laredo in 7mm mag. he had never fired a centerfire rifle. the 300 wm mag is a tremendous long range round . also it is very forgiving. all the sendero 300wm we load for really shoot well without a lot of load development. my son shot a 15 shot group you could cover with a sheet of notebook paper, 1000 yards.
     
  10. cazador1022

    cazador1022 Active Member

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    All of don't realize how much I appreciate all the encouragement, knowledge and help you are providing a new long range shooter. Thanks
     
  11. el si

    el si Well-Known Member

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    Yes you can do long range with a factory rifle, but each person has their own idea of what long range is. Just stay proficient with your rifle and shoot it alot so you can learn your limitations. That will give you an idea of how far you can shoot something when hunting.