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Ya they do make both a single feed and a mag feed, I talked to him about that and he said you can use the single feed bullets in a magazine still if you have the length in the mag that the bullets arent taking a beating with the recoil of the rifle, if that makes sense. But they do make a mag feed bullet as well. The ones I shot were single feed bullets out of the SAUM, but I have a lot of left over room in the Hawkins hunter mag, because the SAUM was built on a long action
I was also new to the copper bullets- This is a hunting bullet, 100%. I think if I was you I would contact Sam about the 180's, I cant say for sure but I would be willing to bet that his 168 grain bullet is actually longer and bigger than a cup and core 180 lead bullet. I know the 168gr .284 was a bigger bullet than the 190 bergers I was shooting, because they have that hollow space behind the tip and they arent a solid piece of copper, if that makes sense. As far as length goes I am actually loading these longer than any cup and core Ive shot just because of the OGIVE being different and my OAL being longer with the copper bullet than the lead. I got lucky in the SAUM and I loaded them so the bearing surface was essentially right at the neck/shoulder junction, and that just so happened to be .002 off the lands, but the overall length is quite a bit longer than the 190 bergers I was shooting before as well as the 180 Hornadys. As far as load reduction, I do feel like I did have to reduce my load slightly with the solid copper bullets, I am not positive if thats a normal thing across the board or not but I do think my load is slightly less than what youd be with a 168 grain lead bullet.
That is exactly what I did and I was shooting the single feeds in a magazine
A 168 copper is almost certainly longer than any 180 lead core of similar external profile. Lead is A LOT heavier than copper.
I'm getting a RemArms 7mm RM in a month or two. Later on it'll go into a KRG Bravo. I wonder if that single feed 168 would work in it from a mag. What do you think?
Lenny, I have only tried one mono, the 180 TSX.
I think you would be fine with a 3.850 CIP length magazine in that KRG bravo. I have some 7mm brass at home I could load up a dummy round tonight and give you a length. They wouldnt work in my 7mm because its a ruger 77 with a long feed ramp and a short box magazine- chamber length i had plenty of room and I coulda ran it as a single feed gun, but I didnt end up messing with it. But in a chassis with an AICS mag i think youre going to have plenty of room
I myself typically run a G7 also but I didnt have a starting point on the G7- I only had the information for the G1 and so thats what I stuck with is the only reason
The 6mm offering is coming soon I am told.
Please keep us posted!
Mr. Ed , what was your muzzle speed and impact speed ?McGuire Ballistics review
I had the pleasure to shoot these bullets last hunting season out of my 30 SM. I used the 195 with a .700 g1, which i did use during hunting season. Looks close to a .350 G7. Still need to go shoot that to confirm. What separates this mono from others is the tip. It looks like a solid copper...www.longrangehunting.com
Here is my post for the 195
