Making sure I understand

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by AKBman, Jan 5, 2014.

  1. AKBman

    AKBman Well-Known Member

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    In regards to MOA, if my scope has 1/4 MOA per click adjustment, this means 4 clicks is 1 MOA, if I am shooting at 500 yards and I need to adjust up 3 MOA that would be 12 clicks correct? I am considering turrets for my scope, just to make adjustments easier.
     
  2. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    That is correct. But aren't your turrets numbered in moa? So you just dial to #3 which should be 12 clicks.

    Jeff
     
  3. AKBman

    AKBman Well-Known Member

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    I don't have turrets as of yet, I have a 2.5-8x36 on my 300 Win Mag right now, and I am looking into turrets for it, that way I can extend my range until I can afford a new scope. Right now I need a new chrony and rangefinder to really get past 500 reliably.
     
  4. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    Stoney Point use to make some screw on target turrets for some scopes. Might try e-bay for a deal on one of them. I think they made lots of them for Leupolds if that is what you have.

    Good Luck.

    Jeff
     
  5. runshort

    runshort Well-Known Member

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    I think I read something about longrange hunting being addictive and expensive on this forum. Did anyone else read that?
     
  6. 42769vette

    42769vette Well-Known Member

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    A lot of folks assume all scopes track the way they are advertised to. This is far from the truth. Exposed turrets are only good if the scope tracks. Im not saying yours doesn't, its just something to keep in mind.
     
  7. Broz

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    That is something to consider especially with less expensive offerings. But out to 500 yards where the OP is working it would have to be really bad to keep off kill zone. Two moa or so which I would hope not on a 3 moa dial up. I would think a problem of this magnitude would be obvious zeroing at 100.

    I feel exposed turrets are the way to go. I much prefer dialing for a center hold over holdover. And even if the scope turrets are off of their advertised .25 moa this is an adjustable condition in a $10 app like "shooter" So I would not agree with your statement " Exposed turrets are only good if the scope tracks." Unless you are dealing with a scope that changes tracking values each time dialed. Then I would remove that scope and have it repaired, replaced or use it to pound tent stakes.:D

    Jeff
     
  8. 42769vette

    42769vette Well-Known Member

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    When you dial with a scope that doesn't track you have to re sight in your rifle after every time you touch the turrets. There are 2 kinds of tracking issues. One is where it moves your POI a consistent amount, then not what is advertised.

    That one is not as big a deal because you figure your dope on the scope, and you are dialing for what is happening.

    Another issue is scopes with inconsistent clicks. You may dial up 10 moa, and down 10 moa, and learn your original zero is 3 moa off, and now your re sighting in because 3 moa off at 500 yds is a wounded animal. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I dont see where the OP says his max range is 500 yds. He uses 500yds as a point of reference for the math, but for all I can tell he is shooting 1000 yds.

    Ammo is to expensive to run cheap scopes that dont track.
     
  9. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    If the scope will not return to zero it needs to be replaced no matter what method of use. It is an accident waiting to happen. If it moves 3 moa after a ten moa up and back ,,, well I would not be using it and I don't think any of us would.

    You are correct, what the OP stated in his second reply was he was changing some gear to get beyond 500 reliably. That is where I got that from, that and his initial question.

    OK, so here is my disclaimer so often needed these days on LRH. My posts were made only for those who have scopes that track and return to zero. And I was not trying to upset any of the hold over boys as this post was indeed about dialing in for a shot.

    Over and out, as I am not up to date on what it takes to successfully dial a scope and hit targets cold bore and it was even mentioned my methods could produce wounded animals.:rolleyes: But the last 30 plus elk, deer and antelope have all been one and done with my rifles.That does not include the coyote at 1300. :D

    Good day
    Jeff
     
  10. 42769vette

    42769vette Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't trying to be a ass even if that's how it came off, but there are a lot of companies out here that wont replace a scope, or fix a scope that doesn't track. A lot of folks use those scopes even if they don't work to our standards. I know you have been around look enough to see folks talking about how their Barska was made to shoot 2000 yds. Those are the people Im hoping to educate with my initial post. I'm in the same boat as you. I dial for long range shots, and am far from a "holdover boy" and think its the right way to do it IF your equipment is up to par. What I was trying to say is if your equipment is not up to par then you should look at holding over
     
  11. AKBman

    AKBman Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the replies! I guess before I invest in turrets, I need to ensure my scope tracks. It is a Leupold, but even though it isn't their least expensive, it isn't the top of the line either. So far it has been a good scope, but I have never tried dialing it up and down, have relied on velocity and holdover at longer ranges. My rifle has yet to take an animal beyond 350 yards, but I sure want to.