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Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by IdahoHunter208, Jul 21, 2019.
1.-build a 7mag!
2.-have it chambered and throated correctly for the 180 vld eldx or other high BC 180- offering they'll reach 3k pretty easily.
3.- run a standard mag box even with them being extremely long.
4.-get Hawkins BDL and follower.
5.-shoot the hell out of it!!
I just had a 7rm built and throated for 180s. Pretty wicked combo. So that’s what I’d recommend.
Use the bottom metal the stock is inletted for
With the Wyatts cut you could build either an STW or 28 Nosler. They are the same animal in different clothes. STW requires longer OAL and brass is cheaper. It has a belt that is somehow out of style these days. The 28 has a shorter, fatter more expensive case that is all the rage today. After having two STW's, I just had a 28 built. Why? no valid reason other than I wanted to try and play with something new. I came within a knat's hair of doing a 7MM-300Win. Kinda wish I had.
I like the 7mm-300 win/or the practical , which should handle 180 Bergers with a 9 twist. I shoot 195s with an 8 twist, and can usually get 1/2 MOA at 800 yds, occasiopnally much better.
HMMM , all my boxes of 195's say 1:8 on them but I know 1:8.5 will stabilize them that is what my rogue is
1st congratulations on what will be a nice rig.
I am super partial to the 28 caliber. My personal choice was the 7 Rem Mag and I have no regrets. It’s very shootable and will do what you’re asking it to; however, you already have a Wyatt’s box and you’re asking to kill elk at a grand. Not that the 7RM won’t do it but a bit more hp might be appreciated out there. If you’re a reloader, there are a few I’d look at and a few of avoid.
Consider the 7 Sherman and 7 Practical (7-300 as it was intended). Nathan Foster actually prefers the 9 twist in the Practical.
I would avoid the nosler. It’s a bruiser, hell on barrels, the cost of its “extra” performance is not worth it. 25% increase in powder, 30%increase in recoil for 7% increase in velocity and 1/5th the barrel life...
Note to Nosler fanatics: it’s not personal, just factual data.
Also note: Nathan was not testing with 195 EOL, although I’m sure he since has. If the 195 is the projectile of choice I would choose a 1:8.5 or 1:8 for stability
There is a difference between OPTIMAL, and MINIMUM twist requirements. Berger's marketing figured they could sell to more people if they put the MINIMUM twist requirement on the box now, instead of the OPTIMAL twist rate like they used to print.
Choose a 7-08 pushing the 195 @ 2650fps, 1000' AMSL & 30°F, coastal WA OR, or some low elevation desert winter hunts.
1:9" twist is barely stable at 1.21
Just by going to a 1:8" twist, you are now fully stable @ 1.53.
It's a bit retro but does anything the 28 Nosler or 7mm-300 will do. It's called the 7mm Mashburn Super and it's a hell of a round.
I just finished a 7 Dakota last year and hoping my brass lasts as long as my barrel does. When it is time to re-barrel I will be going with another 7 that has cheaper and more available brass.
Right now I would say in this order.
7 Weatherby mag
7/300 Weatherby mag
and possibly 28 Nosler...
My 3 choices would be the 7mm SAUM, 7mm Rem Mag, and 28 Nosler. All three are popular with multiple sources for brass, and dies and reamers don’t have to be special or custom ordered. With a 9 twist, I would go with either Hornady 162 ELDs or Berger 175 Elite Hunters.
Practicality be darned; built a 7 Chey-Tac!!