- May 21, 2008
- South of Canada and North of Wyoming
Howdy elkhunter, welcome to the discussion.I have not had the time to do any serious load development for my RUM but I have decided on the bullet manufacturer. Barnes. In the group that I hunt with the Barnes bullet has been an excellant choice. Through and through penetration with large exit wounds. The only animal that we have hunted with the Barnes bullet has been elk. Ranges from 30 yards to 637 yards (ranged). This year we finally recovered a bullet from a poor shot. Less than 100 yards almost at the point of the hip. Lost most of that quarter but the recovered bullet weighed 156 grains of what started as a 168 grain TTSX.
My question is why no one is mentioning the Barnes bullet as an option for loads in this thread. I don't have an axe to grind one way or another but just asking.
In my experience with the Nosler bullets I was never able to get them to shoot accurately in five different 30-06 rifles I was reloading for. At that time I quit trying the Noslers and went back to the Sierra Game King that gave me sub moa groups in all five rifles. One of those rifles was my fathers military surplus Springfield that shot a 3/4" group with an issue two land barrel. The SGKs performed as well as anything we have used to date. I think we have succumbed to the hype about using premium bullets.
I am on a quest to make my RUM shoot itty bitty groups like my 06 did. I will follow this thread to gather any and all opinions, thoughts and recipes.
Thank you to all that post in this thread.
It's interesting to read and hear different experiences with various guns, powder, bullets, etc. In contrast to you, I have had nothing but but good results with Noslers - Partitions, AB's, Ballisitic Silvertips and E-Tips, in all the rifles I have shot them in.
Specifically related to this thread, my best groups in load development for my Sendero 300 RUM have been .4" @ 212 yds and 1.8" @ 427 yds with 180 E-Tips. When my rifle isn't over fouled, it will shoot these bullets consistantly at about .5 MOA out to 500 yds so far. So apparantly in some rifles they shoot well. I've also done some load work with the 200 AB's and they shot well, but I ran out of them and didn't get anymore because I was satisfied with the results I was getting from the E-Tips.
Another thing about Barnes bullets is that they have relatively low BC's which is not good for LR shooting. That being said, accuracy is more important than BC, but there are a lot of bullets to go through before you get down to the Barnes on the BC scale. And they are all proven killers in one way or another. I did some load development with 168 TTSX's in my 300 WSM a while back and found that their tips were a little on the delicate side. They didn't take rough handling very well. I broke off 2 cycling them through the action and a couple more when pulling bullets out of the cases. The E-Tips seem to be more rugged.
Have you tried the E-Tips yet? They are a great bullet with a good BC, and they will get a lot farther down ranges than the TSX/TTSX's.