xsn10s
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I'd have to FIRST set up a Go Fund Me account to be able to afford to try it with my SML. H4895 and Pittman bullets ain't cheap. I'd be confident out to 400 yards which I regularly shoot, but that's my "nature imposed" limit around my neck of the woods. My confidence would drop sharply on anything much further having not been able to practice it first.With a hunting rifle, whatever you actually hunt with.
See that's where I disagree, there is no clock. If you aren't 100% ready and comfortable to take the shot there is absolutely no requirement to do so, do not rush it, that's how animals get wounded unnecessarily.Ok, so for you you're comfy with taking all the time you need, I prefer to be on the animals clock
Both options would be fun to do. I'm more of a hunter/shooter than I am a hunter/sniper hence my vote for a clock. No right or wrong here, just different ways and that's what makes this all so interesting and fun. (at least for me)
This is a very good target for the info for shooters looking at this, most of the shots are for elevation able to fit in the xring, 1moa. That shows the shooter and rifle are doing a very good job and the windage component is very good and shows the shooter is paying attention to the wind and making good calls for corrections. every shot at 600 yds in the highpower game has to be analized because each shot has a very good chance of having a different amount of correction. Making 100 out of 100 shots is very unrealistic in any kind of wind conditions since the milk jug is around 6 inches wide that means any more than 3inches of incorrect wind call will be a miss. I have shot with the best wind readers in the world at camp Perry for the highpower championships and the best there who are very devoted and talented could not get 100 out of 100 in a normal windy day, That would be equilivent to shooting 5 20 shot matches in a row and getting a 200-20x on each one, somebody has I'm sure shot a 200 20x but it is very uncommon. I always pitch for shooters to come out to these matches so they can see the results of each shot, the target is pulled after each shot and marked so you can make your wind guess and shoot and see if you were correct for 20 shots usually with at least 10 different windage settings and the people at these matches welcome new shooters and will bend over backwards to help a new person. I have tryed for a couple years on this forum to get people to come and shoot but no single person has yet from here. Only one young man came to a match from around here and he read too many stories about shooting game animals at 1000 yds and after he shot in a 600, 800 900 and 1000yd match he learned that the wind sometimes makes things out of your controlHere is a screenshot pic of a 20 round + sighters (20 minutes max) 600 yard NM rules prone, AR-NM 223 loaded with 77gr Sierras. The MR-1 measures 6"-X ring and 12"-10.
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Definitely Not Me. That would be great to try.
This is a very good target for the info for shooters looking at this, most of the shots are for elevation able to fit in the xring, 1moa. That shows the shooter and rifle are doing a very good job and the windage component is very good and shows the shooter is paying attention to the wind and making good calls for corrections. every shot at 600 yds in the highpower game has to be analized because each shot has a very good chance of having a different amount of correction. Making 100 out of 100 shots is very unrealistic in any kind of wind conditions since the milk jug is around 6 inches wide that means any more than 3inches of incorrect wind call will be a miss. I have shot with the best wind readers in the world at camp Perry for the highpower championships and the best there who are very devoted and talented could not get 100 out of 100 in a normal windy day, That would be equilivent to shooting 5 20 shot matches in a row and getting a 200-20x on each one, somebody has I'm sure shot a 200 20x but it is very uncommon. I always pitch for shooters to come out to these matches so they can see the results of each shot, the target is pulled after each shot and marked so you can make your wind guess and shoot and see if you were correct for 20 shots usually with at least 10 different windage settings and the people at these matches welcome new shooters and will bend over backwards to help a new person. I have tryed for a couple years on this forum to get people to come and shoot but no single person has yet from here. Only one young man came to a match from around here and he read too many stories about shooting game animals at 1000 yds and after he shot in a 600, 800 900 and 1000yd match he learned that the wind sometimes makes things out of your control
I am sure the other disiplines have very good wind readers but have shot in switchy wind enough to know it is not possible to guess the wind within 1/2 moa 100% of the time ,also the 100 shot challenge does not shoot all the shots at 600 yds, the closer shots will be lots easier. I still think 100 out of 100 may be close to impossible to acheiveOne must remember, the 600yd "prone" in the NM course is shot using only a sling for support and not any type of ground rest, front nor back. While I have never shot a 200-20x NM prone, I have shot 200-12x and several other cleans in the 600 during my career.
If one has competed in any of the 600yd BR matches, one will see several very small groups with often 20 round aggregates that run under 3 inches, sometimes much less. F-class is becoming similar with some great groups happening there.
As for wind reading, I think the best wind readers I have ever shot with are those in the BR class, especially the 600-1,000yd class. We did not have the luxury of large bullseyes and 10 rings we had in NM, for the game is all about the smallest groups possible.