Curious what is preferred single shot or a repeater?

2C/1H said:

This is a long range hunting thread.....we're talking ELR / LR not up close and personal. It always baffles me why up close and personal encounters are even brought up.

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I believe you asked what folks hunted with and I assumed you wanted to know why also? I just provided an example to the WHY I don't prefer to use a single shot. Good luck in your responses.

Rick Richard said:

I believe you asked what folks hunted with and I assumed you wanted to know why also? I just provided an example to the WHY I don't prefer to use a single shot. Good luck in your responses.

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thanks for your input but....my OP is clear that I'm talking ELR / LR style hunting and practice...

The only potential problem I see is that while you might be thinking ELR hunting, does all of your game and/or possible threats follow your set of rules? I kinda doubt it. Being prepared for a "close encounter of the dangerous kind" just seems prudent to me if you're hunting in an area containing critters that bite. Perhaps a capable sidearm would fill the bill but trying to get Mother Nature to follow your rules is a fools errand. Stuff happens.
Cheers,
crkckr

crkckr said:

The only potential problem I see is that while you might be thinking ELR hunting, does all of your game and/or possible threats follow your set of rules? I kinda doubt it. Being prepared for a "close encounter of the dangerous kind" just seems prudent to me if you're hunting in an area containing critters that bite. Perhaps a capable sidearm would fill the bill but trying to get Mother Nature to follow your rules is a fools errand. Stuff happens.
Cheers,
crkckr

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lol taking your approach and others that posted to my thread we alI might as well carry M4 carbines and some grenades in addition to our ELR/ LR rig just in case we run into some terrorists or have to fight off the ever present marauding mountain lion or bear because we all know those bastards are out there just waiting for us to show up with a single feed ELR rig.

To that end sure if you feel every mountain lion and bear is out to get you then carry a sidearm and if you are really serious you'd better stay in two's as well because then you and your buddy have twice the fire power!!

it's a wonder how any hunters or backpack hikes even come home LMAO

I have a repeater in 338 cheytac best it could be , if you miss just recycle another and your ready, with single shot you may fumble around. For sure the best if you want the best!

I've hunted most of my years with either a Remington 700 or Savage 110 bolt action rifle. I've also had Encore single shots for specific hunting tasks. (can't beat one for a short / compact brush gun in any caliber you want...think 16" barrel and no action to make it long) What I learned was 500+ yard shots for us was uncommon and more than one shot was equally uncommon. Since I don't like taking my tactical rig out in the rain (yea sounds funny but they are more of a pain to clean than a stainless encore) my son & I have switched over to single shots with the idea that they would be accurate enough out to 500 yards. Well it took a little extra work but we both have our Encores shooting about .75moa or better at the moment and it looks like we have the potential with handloading to get that down to .5moa. With that I'll be happy to shoot out past 500 yards. So I don't think accuracy is the short coming of a single shot at this point. The triggers are the next spot to compare. Obviously you can get any number of awesome aftermarket triggers for most rifles. Not so much with a single shot. With just a little work we got the Encores down to 2 pounds. I've read they can be brought down even further wo/to much work or sent in to Bellm. They also sell everything you'd need to make an Encore awesome at a fraction of the cost of a Ruger #1 (all be it no where near as purdy) www.bellmtcs.com/bellm/encoretrigger For follow up shots I've found a little two bullet holder on the forend can be almost as quick as a bolt action but there is more movement associated with reloading a single shot encore. Then again I've never had anything care about that movement once the deer or yote get out past 250-300 yards.

Just my experience, I think it ends up boiling down to what is most comfortable for you and what you practice with the most so the shot(s) can be made more than what they are made with.

OK one advantage for the Encore...you can swap the barrel to whatever caliber you want with ease and factory barrels are cheap (250 bucks or less often) and the super nice custom barrels are about the same price as a prefit R700 barrel but easier to put on, no headspace gauge needed.

2C/1H

All of the people that answer any question (be that from you or anyone else) on this forum took time out of there day and lives to try to help answer the question at hand. Take that for what it's worth.

With that said, sounds to me like you already have an answer to your question based on your rudeness to those that are trying to give you positives and negatives to your question.

Sounds like you are for a repeater, so load your 375 up Sir!

Have a great day!
Steve

BoomFlop said:

2C/1H

All of the people that answer any question (be that from you or anyone else) on this forum took time out of there day and lives to try to help answer the question at hand. Take that for what it's worth.

With that said, sounds to me like you already have an answer to your question based on your rudeness to those that are trying to give you positives and negatives to your question.

Sounds like you are for a repeater, so load your 375 up Sir!

Have a great day!
Steve

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Steve i will apologize to you and everyone if you thought it was rude of me to simply trying to keep people from talking about the short game since we are in a LONG RANGE HUNTING forum...and the long range game was the premise of my question hence why I stressed it in the question....btw it just so happens I run single feed for my ELR/ LR rigs.

2C/1H,
Scoff as you will but a co-worker of mine saved his own like with a "pea-shooter" 357 mag on a caribou hunt in Alaska. Everyone gave him a hard time because he carried his pistol along with his 375H&H. Unfortunately the 4 of them (plus a guide) walked up on a sleeping griz, who stood up in a depression, popping his jaws and looking at the 5 of them (they were walking in sort of a horse shoe, with my co-worker in the middle). My friend slowy unlimbered his rifle and took a single step backwards. The bear instantly dropped all fours and went straight for him. He fired the rifle from the hip then, realizing he didn't have time to work the bolt, dropped the rifle, turned around and ran. He was a long legged guy but knew he couldn't out run a bear. When he didn't hear any shots from his buddies and could hear the bear grunting as it caught up to him, he pulled the .357 and just stuck it out behind him and started shooting. The bear was so close he hit it all 6 times. The last round hit the bear right between the eyes and drove his head into the ground. The bear never got up after that. Turns out he'd hit it in the shoulder, tearing things up pretty good. It was likely the reason he was able to stay ahead of the bear as long as he did. None of the .357 hits helped to kill the bear, they were all superficial wounds, including the head shot. He started carrying a .44 mag after that.

As an aside, he asked everyone why they didn't shoot the bear. They all said fhey were afraid of hitting him! He said, "Great, so you were all going to let the bear maul me?" At least no one gave him any ca-ca about carrying a pistol after that.
Also keep in mind that sometimes everyone on a hike or hunt *doesn't* come home.
Cheers,
crkckr

I load my stw single shot . I only hunt deer with it. the only time I rember needing a second shot I had plenty of time but didn't take it. then had to track him down and make the second shot. all my fault not the lack of being fast.

While I personally prefer a bolt gun for hunting, my mentor did a lot of his hunting with a Ruger #1 in 6mm. While he had the skills for long range shooting, his 'thing' was getting as close as possible before pulling the trigger - preferably getting in their bed with them! I like having the ability to shoot long range but I always try to get as close as I can. My longest kill was a wounded 'goat' at about 750 yards (no range finder back then, just a reasonable guess) in Montana, while my closest has been measured in feet in AZ.
They're all memorable to me,
Cheers,
crkckr

A dedicated elr rifle that I would use will never have a mag, they are useless for precision shooting. Banging 4+ inch long precision loaded rounds out of a mag into a chamber is no way to treat them, you treat them with love all the way to the rifle and then battering ram them out of a mag they have been slapping around in each shot?
I have zero concern about a bear with an elr rig, anyone ever try to of hand anything with a true elr rifle, you'll be better of with a rock! An elr rifle is not a defensive weapon!!

bigngreen said:

A dedicated elr rifle that I would use will never have a mag, they are useless for precision shooting. Banging 4+ inch long precision loaded rounds out of a mag into a chamber is no way to treat them, you treat them with love all the way to the rifle and then battering ram them out of a mag they have been slapping around in each shot?
I have zero concern about a bear with an elr rig, anyone ever try to of hand anything with a true elr rifle, you'll be better of with a rock! An elr rifle is not a defensive weapon!!

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unless you swing it like a bat

bigngreen said:

A dedicated elr rifle that I would use will never have a mag, they are useless for precision shooting. Banging 4+ inch long precision loaded rounds out of a mag into a chamber is no way to treat them, you treat them with love all the way to the rifle and then battering ram them out of a mag they have been slapping around in each shot?
I have zero concern about a bear with an elr rig, anyone ever try to of hand anything with a true elr rifle, you'll be better of with a rock! An elr rifle is not a defensive weapon!!

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that is the sort of logical I've been looking for...I too single feed for exactly the same reasons and wanted to shed some light on my way of thinking