Berger 230 and 300 OTM Hybrid terminal results

Nice shooting!!! I'm finishing my 6.5X284 for speed goats in Wyoming this year and just (I mean just) picked up a Remington a 700 CDL in 300 RUM and turning it into a 338 Edge. I've been reading on the Berger bullets and was wanting to build this rifle around it. I shoot the Bergers now in my 7mm and 6.5X284. Getting great results out of both!!!
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Jeff,
Thanks for the awsome pics of animals you guys taken. I really want to come back to Montana and hunt again. Your pics give me confidence using the Bergers. I really want to hunt with the 250 gr. Hybrids. Maybe this fall I can post a pic of an elk taken with the Berger Hybrids.
Hope you get your wolf, I want a wolf really bad, so that is my next dream hunt in the plans.
Tarey
 
Thought I would add yesterdays cow elk my son shot with the 230 Hybrid from his 300 win. MV is 2775. This was the closest kill we have had on elk with them. A nice big cow at 218 yards. Precisely placed behind the shoulder and waited for her to be perfectly broadside and all other elk to clear from behind her.

She turned and stood wobbling and tried to follow the leaving herd. She went maybe 10 steps and fell.

The blood trail.

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As we watched her do the Berger Wobble we could see chunks coming out the exit side. I am thinking it was from badly damaged lungs.

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The exit and placement.

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Jeff,

What bullet will you shoot in the future? Looks like you son is sticking with the 230 that he also used last year. Eventually your supply of 215s is going to dwindle, will you stick with the 215 or go back to the 230s?

The two of you sure had some great hunting the last two years, hope you have many more in your future.

Ross
 
Broz, I agree with all the others, thanks for posting all the animals you took this year! It was great for some of us to see that did not have an opportunity to hunt much this season. Also, the information on the Berger performance was outstanding! It's guys like yourself that keep this site very interesting.

Thanks again!
Ron
 
Ross, I am sticking with the 215's because they are so accurate and work so well in my rifle. If I had gone with the 230's first I would probably stick with them too. The only reason I would change to the 230 OTM would be if I were to go after big bears or something up closer. I feel the reduced velocity and little bit heavier bullet might have something to bring to the table. But for how I hunt 99% of the time the 215 is just fine.



Ron, I am glad you enjoyed the posts and I hope they will help some people to decide what they want from whatever bullet they choose for their rifle.

Guys thanks for the kind words.

Jeff
 
Would love to see the effects of a 215 on one of them wolves up duck creek:D ! I know they run that front face ,ive seen them and thier tracks , hope you get 1 and we would love to see that picture.
 
Would love to see the effects of a 215 on one of them wolves up duck creek:D ! I know they run that front face ,ive seen them and thier tracks , hope you get 1 and we would love to see that picture.

I was up there after them last night but could not find them. I need snow!! I have permission to go after them from several rancher in that area. I hope we get them too.

Jeff
 
I recently harvested a 300lb muley with a much closer shot than expected with a 300 gr OTM shot from my 338 rum @2830 The shot was only 80 yards, the deer never moved from his bed and was instantly DRT. Shot went in through near shoulder breaking the shoulder blade into many pieces, bullet destroyed internals and came to rest on the outside of the far shoulder not hitting any bone on the far shoulder. Bullet was even with the outside of the shoulder but just shy of the hide. When butchering I saw the bullet on the outside and simply pulled it out. On a note, the bullet caused almost zero blood shot of edible meat, very strange for all the damage it did.

This makes my 5th kill with the 300 otm. So far so good and I am happy to have some data on close shots in case I have to use one to defend myself against something with big teeth and claws. My other kills with the 300 are buck antelope @ 350 hit a bit farther back than desired, but two steps and done, doe antelope hit a few inches off the mark @ 300 (realized the atv knocked the scope off, switched to a picatinny rail to solve the problem) 5 point bull elk, big body @ 550 instant lights out, shot hit behind shoulder, no exit, I didn't look for the bullet since I was just cutting off the quarters and I heard what I believe to be a grizzly chomping his teeth in the heavy cover below me, forgot to get the ivories too! Kind of funny how you can get a little shook up when you think you have gone from the hunter to the prey! Next kill was a cow elk at 200 hit in neck, drt big exit hole.
My next tags are a couple of doe antelope that I want to try my 215's from my 300 ultra and then on to a late season bull tag and another cow tag for some more results with the 300 otm.
An interesting note, last year on a cow elk hunt, my hunting partner and I were above a herd of cows and calves I gave him first shot. He hit a cow with a 300 smk from his 338 rum @ about 2700 muzzle velocity, then I shot dropping my cow. I asked him if he got his and he said he was sure he hit his mark. A few minutes later I saw a cow elk walk behind a tree about 400 yards away. The rest of the herd was gone. I told him she must be hit. She went behind the tree and never came out. It was his elk. We aren't sure what happened with his shot, because there was also no exit but we were very surprised she went so far. We wish we would have opened her up to examine what the bullet did.
 

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She shot this elk facing us at 678 yards dialed for 680 on the nightforce with 300 rum shooting 230 gr berger match hybrid .743 in the neck and bullet entered leaving with the same size entrance as the other guys pics and traveled to the top of the left shoulder and stopped. the bullet came apart and some pieces took out the liver, lungs and heart the only thing i recovered was a large piece of flattened out bullet jacket. Cow dropped so hard she thought she had missed. Impact velocity was 2286 fps and energy was 2668 ft lbs. The only thing i dislike is the coal at 3.92 turns my gun into a single shot. And the other part that sucks is retrieving the animal way over there. Overall very impressed.
 

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She shot this elk facing us at 678 yards dialed for 680 on the nightforce with 300 rum shooting 230 gr berger match hybrid .743 in the neck and bullet entered leaving with the same size entrance as the other guys pics and traveled to the top of the left shoulder and stopped. the bullet came apart and some pieces took out the liver, lungs and heart the only thing i recovered was a large piece of flattened out bullet jacket. Cow dropped so hard she thought she had missed. Impact velocity was 2286 fps and energy was 2668 ft lbs. The only thing i dislike is the coal at 3.92 turns my gun into a single shot. And the other part that sucks is retrieving the animal way over there. Overall very impressed.

So why not seat them shorter? They are not VLDs, seating depth does not matter. I am getting so amped up to put one of these 230g pills to work, but season is still more than a month off.
 
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