Peterson Brass

ADG is making brass for 6.8W this year. Maybe will kick off some other 3rd party folks to pick it up. Hopefully Peterson will see the light and join them;)

Lou
Great to hear! I don't own a rifle in that cartridge, but I'm rooting for it to succeed. If it was produced by Hornady, it would enjoy a much larger following and components readily available.
 
As far as getting good ignition, regardless of primer type, I think the general consensus is that a good solid crimp is your friend.

Regarding 6.8 western, you'll notice they don't have any SAUM or WSM brass either. All very similar. I don't know anything about manufacturing brass, to be clear, but it seems if you already had the tooling to make 6.5 creedmoor brass, making 25 and 22 creed shouldn't require that much more effort compared to starting afresh with a whole other cartridge case family.
That's what I thought but then why don't they have 25-06, 6.5-06, 6mm-284, 35 whelen, 338-06 and 338 federal? All of those are less rare than some of the stuff they have now or have run in the past. Right? And they do have 6.5 prc. I guess it just depends on who is shooting it to a certain extent. But then they have 270 win sitting there and it's like, man, who needed 10k ultra premium 270 cases that bad, or how was there a gap to fill in the market on that one? Just thinking out loud.
 
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That's what I thought but then why don't they have 25-06, 6.5-06, 6mm-284, 35 whelen, 338-06 and 338 federal? All of those are less rare than some of the stuff they have now or have run in the past. Right? And they do have 6.5 prc. I guess it just depends on who is shooting it to a certain extent. But then they have 270 win sitting there and it's like, man, who needed 10k ultra premium 270 cases that bad, or how was there a gap to fill in the market on that one? Just thinking out loud.
I have a thousand 270 peterson cases myself. We've got over ten 270s in the family.
 
I can't say crappy because it doesn't impact me at all, but I find it odd considering they're already bought into 22 creed, 25 creed, and both the 6.5 and 338 rpm. Nevermind all the obscure Nosler and Weatherby stuff. How many 33 noslers will ever exist in the universe compared to the 6.8s already? Not a complaint, I got no horse in this race, it's just... funny I guess. Both 284 variants, both 280 variants, but 25-06 is still years out? All those Normas but the WSMs were too much before now? Of course there's a chicken-egg paradox to confront, but they're obviously no stranger to creating a market to be supportive of.

Steve, I've been thinking of trying their SRP 6.5CM stuff, have you heard many opinions on small primers and Hammers playing well together? Specifically and light for caliber hammers or absolutes? I just worry gentle ignition and slippery pills might be self-defeating, even though I've had great success with regular LRP vs MagLRP in short mags.
We have done very little work with srp's. So, no personal opinion. I know there are lots of guys that are using srp's with Hammers nicely. I have always leaned toward using magnum primers in order to get ignition started more quickly with the lower engraving pressure of the Hammers. I am not as adamant about using magnum primers as I once was. Some cartridges or powders do better with a cooler ignition. If any of the Hammers need hotter ignition it would be the Absolutes because of the very low engraving pressure.
 
We have done very little work with srp's. So, no personal opinion. I know there are lots of guys that are using srp's with Hammers nicely. I have always leaned toward using magnum primers in order to get ignition started more quickly with the lower engraving pressure of the Hammers. I am not as adamant about using magnum primers as I once was. Some cartridges or powders do better with a cooler ignition. If any of the Hammers need hotter ignition it would be the Absolutes because of the very low engraving pressure.
Makes sense. I have been using absolutes with LRP with phenomenal accuracy but I could be leaving some speed on the table. I'll keep an eye out, thanks.
 
I find it odd considering they're already bought into 22 creed, 25 creed, and both the 6.5 and 338 rpm.
I imagine the development of the 22 and 25 Creed was easier considering they already had the parent case fully developed, same with the 338 RPM. The 6.5 RPM has been out longer than the 6.8 Western has so I see how they could've developed the cartridge sooner. Even the 22 and 25 Creed have been out longer than the Western, so I can see how/why they have those available.

As others have said, I'm sure they want to see it be successful before investing the money in it. I'm sure it's just a basic business decision that they'd like to make sure it with have a ROI first. I can't see how they figured a the RPM was going to be more widely accepted than the Western though? Maybe they figured since it's a 6.5 over the .277 as the 6.5 calibers have been extremely popular as of late. I know I'd like to get a short magnum action and would definitely consider the 6.8 Western over some others but, the brass availability does give some pause on that and would lead me more towards the 7mm SAUM instead, even though I already have too many 7mm cartridges and I'd like to add a .277.
 
I imagine the development of the 22 and 25 Creed was easier considering they already had the parent case fully developed, same with the 338 RPM. The 6.5 RPM has been out longer than the 6.8 Western has so I see how they could've developed the cartridge sooner. Even the 22 and 25 Creed have been out longer than the Western, so I can see how/why they have those available.

As others have said, I'm sure they want to see it be successful before investing the money in it. I'm sure it's just a basic business decision that they'd like to make sure it with have a ROI first. I can't see how they figured a the RPM was going to be more widely accepted than the Western though? Maybe they figured since it's a 6.5 over the .277 as the 6.5 calibers have been extremely popular as of late. I know I'd like to get a short magnum action and would definitely consider the 6.8 Western over some others but, the brass availability does give some pause on that and would lead me more towards the 7mm SAUM instead, even though I already have too many 7mm cartridges and I'd like to add a .277.
Yeah you get what I'm saying. The number of all the rpms in the world has got to be lower than what's already been sold of the 6.8. Maybe since the 284 parent is so sought after by some they just see that as their opportunity, or just weatherbys in general. If brass is troubling for you avoid the SAUM, I got really lucky with my build and it's amazing to play with but we've been at 1 dump a year that goes fast, and with the 7 prc having landed I bet even that gets cut. Lots of people were building longer saums and variants so that's a big chunk out of their motivation. Maybe not, I dunno. Id consider necking up a 6.5 prc next barrel if things get worse, and the 7-300wsm is a dandy if you can deal with the length. Also though, a 27 saum would be interesting.

At any rate I hope Peterson keeps growing, more competition, more quality stuff.
I have a thousand 270 peterson cases myself. We've got over ten 270s in the family.
Friend that is a bananas number of 270s. I bet I haven't seen that many 270s. Nevermind the cases. How do you keep them straight for each gun?
 
Also though, a 27 saum would be interesting.
Isn't that basically what the 6.8 is though? When I was brainstorming I was thinking that might be something worth thinking about but then I thought it was basically the same as the Western. It's like if Remington made the 270 SAUM to compete with the 270 WSM, only better since we're finally making fast twists a thing. I've thought about doing a 7-300 WSM too, I have a 7mm WSM just don't think I have the space in the SA, the longer neck would be nice though. Thats why I was thinking a Western or 270 SAUM, you get a little more space.
 
I checked into that about six months ago as well. I ended up buying 270 Weatherby from them and just running it through my 257 die
Being aware of what can be changed from one case to another is great way to do things. Take 30/06 case can be changed into several different case, and fairly easy too. So don't get stuck on one case, where others case can be made from other case. Sometimes there a cost saving in getting different brass an converting it to something else. Example: 300Win brass to 308NM brass.
Still would like to see 220 Swift cases come out. I think there a lot more using them than what other people think.
 
If you are asking about the Peterson long 300 win mag brass the case is longer at the shoulder.

300 win mag being a belted cartridge is supposed to be head spaced off of the belt but most chambers are longer at the shoulder so when you fire the case it forms to the chamber often stretching a lot thinning the case above the belt.

Best way to load for the 300 win mag is off shoulder length and not the belt to reduce over working the brass.
 
Can someone plz explain to me the short and long version of their brass. Never understood that.
Simple, the Peterson Long brass is exactly that. The brass headspace is slightly longer, thereby minimizing excessive case stretch on first firing found with standard 300WM brass. In my Sendero 300WM, new Peterson Long is essentially what my set back is for fired brass. New brass from other manufacturers is quite a bit shorter on headspace measurements resulting in significant case stretch on first firing of up to 0.015 on different manufacturers. Huge brass life extender.
 
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