Lead poisoning from eating game shot with lead core bullets?

I'm not a scientist but I have experience reading technological and scientific papers. That being said;

Your first link was a valid study result but it really didn't prove that animals taken with bullets were a potential source of health threatening lead poisoning. There are several points that I think make the study questionable.

1. The study says that all weapons used to take the animals were 7mm Mag rifles using 150gr cup and core style ammunition. Toward the end of the paper they mention that some of the meat used to feed the pigs with had bird shot in it. Just how accurate was their data when they claim that only bullets were used and yet they offhandedly mention that bird shot was in the meat.

2. Their experimental method was to take game killed and field dressed by average hunters to a game processor who then processed the meat and then they fed the contaminated meat (identified by radiographic methods) to pigs. They then tested the lead levels in the pigs for 8 days after being fed the meat.

A. They didn't verify that the meat that they turned in was the same meat that they received from the processors - could that explain why they found shotgun pellets in some of the meat that was, supposedly, all taken with 7mm Mag rifles.​
B. They fed the pigs almost 3 pounds of meat in one 24 hour day. Even accounting for the weight differences between the pigs and the average person, that would mean that we would have to eat around 1 1/2 lbs of contaminated meat in one day. Who eats 1 1/2 lbs of meat in a day. And even if you do eat that much meat in a day, how much would actually be contaminated with lead from a kill, I suspect not as much as what those pigs were fed.​
C. Their final conclusion was that the pigs that ate the contaminated meat showed lead blood levels of as high as 3.8 micro-gram/dL for one pig with an average of around 2.2 micro-gram/dL . The report states that the CDC says that lead blood levels in children becomes dangerous at 10 micro-gram/dL . What's more, the pigs only showed the higher levels for the about 3 days after ingesting the meat. So, in order to reach the CDC level that is dangerous for a child, the child would have to eat an average of 5 1/2 lbs of meat in a 24 hour period every three days in order to sustain a health threatening blood lead level. For an adult we would probably have to eat much more. And we would have to ensure that all of that meat was contaminated with lead. I find that pretty hard to imagine.​

I couldn't get to your second link, I don't know if it is dead or if my security software prevented me from getting to it but I couldn't check it out.

Your third link required me to pay for the report and I'm not about to do that so I couldn't read it but the summary that was available for free states that the report concludes that


That's not really anything that seems to be news to anybody that hunts game nor does it seem to conclude that eating game could cause lead poisoning.

Your fourth link doesn't really prove anything, it's just a summary of other papers and studies, it's simply a reference resource for the The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (MDNR). Quoting from other studies doesn't prove anything without including the process and conclusions.
Pure and simple, this is nothing but anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment, and anti-hunting rhetoric. There is no evidence of anyone dying from chronic toxic lead poisoning from bullets. Though, many died from acute lead poising due to massive tissue destruction from lead bullets, (a.k.a gunshot wounds). There is archaeological evidence of the Romas dying from chronic lead poisoning in lead pipes, yet no evidence of chronic lead poisoning in early Americans, including the American Indians. If one could truly find the funding source from these scientific studies, one would find PETA and other like organizations. In other words, their claims are baseless and ANTI-AMERICAN! People have truly forgotten to think for themselves.
 
Well, lead has been used in taking game since firearm was invented in China around 1200. The human race has survived quite a long time by eating game killed with lead projectiles. I don't know about you guys but I usually discard meat that is damaged by the projectiles. I suspect there are "scientists" who come up with these anecdotal theories (like Covid-19) pandemic prevention procedures that don't seem to be that valid.
 
This research is about as far out in left field as they come. I have numerous hours in statistics, ( inferential statistics, 2-way ANOVA, and regression analysis), with a 5.0 average. These jack-asses that conduct and distribute false information drives me nuts. Their models are so flawed that they are nowhere near valid. I can still remember these idiots that dropped out of statistics because they could not grasp what was going on. Always keep in mind; "statistics don't lie,.... but liars use statistics". I would love to get my hands on this "research model" and show them how invalid it actually is, probably starting with their validity level. They are NUTS!
 
It's that time again ...

deer-eats-popcorn_64.gif
 
This research is about as far out in left field as they come. I have numerous hours in statistics, ( inferential statistics, 2-way ANOVA, and regression analysis), with a 5.0 average. These jack-asses that conduct and distribute false information drives me nuts. Their models are so flawed that they are nowhere near valid. I can still remember these idiots that dropped out of statistics because they could not grasp what was going on. Always keep in mind; "statistics don't lie,.... but liars use statistics". I would love to get my hands on this "research model" and show them how invalid it actually is, probably starting with their validity level. They are NUTS!


I can remember when lead based paint was found on the desk in schools and they all had to be replaced. Then someone like you did proper testing and research to come to the conclusion, that our children would have to eat the entire desk in order to have any lead in their system, much less enough to harm them.

Tax payers lost and someone got rich.

J E CUSTOM
 
I don't think there are enough rabbit holes yet so here are a couple more to consider:

Imported Candy at Top of Contaminated Food List in California (lead) - UCSF

Friction Materials cannot have more than 5% COPPER by 2021 and 0.5% by 2025 - CA_CU_Leg

State of Washington banned CU as well in friction materials - WA-CU-Brakes


So let's not get ALL too comfortable over CU bullets.

NLM - municipal water - lead pipe services lines - Lead Exposure Following Partial Service Line Replacement - NLM- Lead water lines

Dang, out of popcorn....
 
Wow! I can't believe this thread has gone on for 9 pages. I have a degree in Environmental Science. Lead in drinking water causes a whole host of health problems which there's no need to get into. Lead bullets and lead core bullets used to kill game animals are simply NOT a health risk unless you are actually ingesting the bullets or large bullet fragments. I've been eating critters killed with lead for 58 years (including lots of lead pellets).

Bottom line for folks with IQ less than 60 and Woke Snowflakes: If you are eating game meat and you bite down on something that isn't meat, spit it out you lunkhead:p

By the way, here's a link to the bad health effects of ingesting too much copper--for Hammer Bullet eaters!🤣
 
Warning! This thread is more than 4 years ago old.
It's likely that no further discussion is required, in which case we recommend starting a new thread. If however you feel your response is required you can still do so.
Top