Xtreme Hardcore Rail

[WildRose]

I chased one of Len's rotating ad links to this site and liked the looks of this rail.

It is in fact stupidly simple and the price isn't at all bad.

Anyone tried these yet?

http://xtremehardcoregear.com/tru_level_pic_rail.html

 

[MudRunner2005]

Might be worth a try. I like that bubble level built into it.

 

[WildRose]

Might be worth a try. I like that bubble level built into it.

My thought as well. There are though certainly differences in how well one mfg does their machining vs another and I hate to be the guinea pig so I thought I'd ask if anyone here has given their product a ride.

Like I said it appears to be a stupidly simple idea and stupidly simple I like!gun)

It also appears to me they already have some centered holes in the rail whereby you can if you so desire drop in a pin to "pin it" to your receiver as well as screwing it down and I really, REALLY like that idea.

With the shock and recoil forces some of our LR rigs generate and the size/weight of some of the scopes we use that extra security of a pin or two can be a life saver.

I have had two different scopes over the years shear off the mounting screws so I'm a big fan of pins or like the NF rails have the little extra lip that locks in against the receiver to prevent those shearing forces from getting a chance to get started.

 

[MontanaRifleman]

I like the bubble level too.... but is it adjustable? Not much use if it isn't. Great idea though.

 

[WildRose]

I like the bubble level too.... but is it adjustable? Not much use if it isn't. Great idea though.

Why would you want it to be adjustable? Level is level... .?

I'm lost on this one.

 

[MontanaRifleman]

Level to what?

If all the holes are drilled and tapped perfectly and the machining of the receiver and rail is perfect and the the bubble tube it self is set perfectly, then good to go. Chances of all that being true is very slim. Chances are that mounting that rail with bubble and leveling the bubble will cant the action a few degrees.

 

[WildRose]

Level to what?

If all the holes are drilled and tapped perfectly and the machining of the receiver and rail is perfect and the the bubble tube it self is set perfectly, then good to go. Chances of all that being true is very slim. Chances are that mounting that rail with bubble and leveling the bubble will cant the action a few degrees.

Doubtful it could be that far off unless it's so bad you can see it with the naked eye.

Even if it were slightly off as long as you use that level as "level" for the rifle and square off of it when leveling your scope for initial mounting the whole rig would still perform properly.

As long as that is your baseline for "level" the rest should work out just fine.

 

[coues7]

It looks awful high

 

[MontanaRifleman]

If I was going to use my naked eye then I wouldn't bother with a level.

If you cant your rifle and scope, say to the right, as your baseline, when you zero, say at 200 yds. your bullet will be traveling from left to right in relation to your line of sight. When the bullet passes the zero point it will continue to travel and drift to the right.

Your base line needs to reflect your scope and action aligned and plumb to the earths gravity.

 

[WildRose]

If I was going to use my naked eye then I wouldn't bother with a level.

If you cant your rifle and scope, say to the right, as your baseline, when you zero, say at 200 yds. your bullet will be traveling from left to right in relation to your line of sight. When the bullet passe the zero point it will continue to travel and drift to the right.

Your base line needs to reflect your scope and action aligned and plumb to the earths gravity.

How do you align your baseline then? How exactly do you set for square with the bore?

What level system are you using that is adjustable?

 

[WildRose]

It looks awful high

Price wise? Compared to what mfg?

Even EGW's start around 70.00 or so.

 

[MudRunner2005]

Doubtful it could be that far off unless it's so bad you can see it with the naked eye.

Even if it were slightly off as long as you use that level as "level" for the rifle and square off of it when leveling your scope for initial mounting the whole rig would still perform properly.

As long as that is your baseline for "level" the rest should work out just fine.

Exactly! Level is level is level, doesn't matter how straight it is on the gun. I still don't see his point a out the adjustable bubble...

 

[MudRunner2005]

Price wise? Compared to what mfg?

Even EGW's start around 70.00 or so.

I think he's talking about physically how high it sits. It does look to be a tall rail, comparatively.

 

[WildRose]

I think he's talking about physically how high it sits. It does look to be a tall rail, comparatively.

Hard to avoid with a 20 MOA rail. With that much cant you're going to have to have a high rail to keep the front of your scope from digging into the barrel unless you have a pencil barrel and/or a small objective.