Vx2 good for long range??

[ShootnMathews]

I need a good long range scope for my savage LRH. I can't afford $1300 for a great scope but I see Nikon has a monarch *-20x50 with target turrets for $700 and leupold has a vx2 6-18x40. With target turrets for $750. Any input on these of which would be the best?? The gun will be used for hunting out to 800 and paper punching to 1200

 

[toddc]

Many better deals out there for the $7-800 range. Look at the vortex HS and PST line. Sightron makes some good glass in that range as does bushnell tactical. Any of these will paste the two you mentioned in value. You can get a MOA 2 reticle from these guys for right at the cost of the nikon and leup. with better glass and turrets. Leup makes some bad stuff but it isnt the VX2. I like Nikon glass and circle bdc system but its nowhere near as effective as a real LR reticle. SWFA is liable to have one of those on the samplelist for less than the Nikon or Leup.

 

[ShootnMathews]

I looked at vortex's site. Cheapest scope I saw in that power range was $850. The rest were $1000 and up. For that price I could get a leupold VX-3. Which are good scopes from what I've seen.

 

[timl]

I had a Leup Vari-x II 6-18 years ago on a 223, then a 22-250. I dialed it all the time, and it always came back to zero. I always thought the glass was good. I have little experience with Nikon or Vortex...other than the crossfire on my .22lr. I am sending you a PM.

 

[toddc]

I looked at vortex's site. Cheapest scope I saw in that power range was $850. The rest were $1000 and up. For that price I could get a leupold VX-3. Which are good scopes from what I've seen.

You were looking at MSRP for those. Many websites have them cheaper. SWFA will probably have something on the samplelist for an even better deal. Leup scopes CAN be good deals but a scope setup similar to the vortex or sightron will run you a lot more $$$. VX2s are ok for a cabelas style product but I certainly wouldnt hobble myself with one for LR.
Manufacturer websites are cool to look at but when you want a deal look into our site sponsors such as SWFA or opticplanet etc. Swfa has 4x16x50 with the moa 1 reticle for $650 and a 6x24 for $750. I didnt check sightron its too much work but they are in the same range. Either of these would be a much better choice than what you were looking at.
The weaver tactical and bushnell elite tactical are also right around the same $$ as the others and bear checking out also.
Good luck.

 

[bigngreen]

We've replace all our VX-3's with Vortex PST's or HS LR's, a co worker is selling of his MK4's for Vortex, I don't see anything Leupold makes that is interesting anymore.
The Vortex HS LR 4-16x50 will out run both optics your looking at for around 600-650 dollars. For more magnification the PST or SIII 6-24x50 in the 800 dollar range would be better options.

 

[toddc]

We've replace all our VX-3's with Vortex PST's or HS LR's, a co worker is selling of his MK4's for Vortex, I don't see anything Leupold makes that is interesting anymore.
The Vortex HS LR 4-16x50 will out run both optics your looking at for around 600-650 dollars. For more magnification the PST or SIII 6-24x50 in the 800 dollar range would be better options.

Leup has been resting on thier laurels and an old brand name that they could leverage into selling at walmart and cabelas for years now. And in my OPINION never were that innovative or VALUE oriented. Yes they build some great scopes....and some real walmart crap also. Regardless of wal mart or MK4 they get pasted by other brands when you consider bang for the buck. Cool scope 30 yrs ago thats using its good name to cash in....reminds me of remington.

 

[ShootnMathews]

Thanks for all the help guys. Ill check around some more. Have an SWFA 12x42 I'm going to use for a while til I get something else so I'm In No rush. Just want a quality LR scope at a fair deal

 

[Shooter264]

I had a Leup Vari-x II 6-18 years ago on a 223, then a 22-250. I dialed it all the time, and it always came back to zero. I always thought the glass was good. I have little experience with Nikon or Vortex...other than the crossfire on my .22lr. I am sending you a PM.

+1. I've had really good luck w th 6-18 vxII. I have one on my 243 AI and have set up two of my dads rifles w them. They ALWAYS return to zero. I haven't had to adjust zero on mine in several years. I wouldn't shy away from the leupy in the least bit.

 

[ShootnMathews]

Also just found a zeiss conquest 6.5-20x50 for $849. That's not too far from my price range. Anyone have any experience with these?? Are they a quality longrangehunter scope??

 

[toddc]

Also just found a zeiss conquest 6.5-20x50 for $849. That's not too far from my price range. Anyone have any experience with these?? Are they a quality longrangehunter scope??

Sure if you like the 1" tube and the lack of SOLID rings and paying half of the $$$ for the zeiss name.....for glass that has never been to germany. Looking at traditional optic sources you might as well hit a nightforce...at least it holds its value. Nikon, leup, burris, zeiss etc are all sitting around cashing in on thier name that other people spent 40+ years building. Now the produce a $500 product to sell for $1000 to people who dont know any better. Save your money for a nice LL BEAN jacket if you like throwing cash away...or send it to me lol.
Look at the newer companies out there and find the right one for a glass bargain, bargain and big name do not go together.
A BARGAIN is so important in glass because of this...all scopes have 14 lenses, a tube, knobs etc. They are all the same...cep for the glass. Now take a leup/nikon/zeiss etc. It will cost $1000 dollars. $200 in materials $300 in labor $500 for the name. A vortex/sightron/bushnell elite/weaver tactical will have $350 in materials, $350 in labor and $100 in the name.
Big name you spent $1000 for $500 worth of glass.
Little guy you spent $800 for $700 worth of glass.
You pick....if you have to buy a "BRAND NAME" realize the guy next to you will have much better glass than you for the same $$$.

 

[toddc]

IOR 2.5x10 with MP-8 $950 if your gonna push the $$ a little. Also Meopta has several under $800 which gets you euro glass also.

 

[toddc]

Wow just hit ebay and you can buy a diavari used for the $$ of that conquuest. I think Id take the dia. with an eternal warranty.

 

[BMF]

I've got 3, VX III and I'm happy with all of them. Buddy of mine just put a VX II 6-18, with the CDS dial, on his 7mm and I thought the glass was pretty good for the price. We shot it out to 780yds and it seemed to track fine, what little I used it.
Now I know there's a lot of people on here that like the vortex's and I don't have a lot of experience with them, but the one 6-24, PST I did look through was bad. It was very cloudy around the edges, and it wouldn't get clear. Probably one bad apple, because theres a pile of shooters that love them. But the same guy has a couple of Mark 4's, 6.5-20 and I think the glass is exceptional on them.
I've got one sightron SIII 6-24 that's waiting to be placed on 6.5x284 that's looks **** clear. I thinks its clearer than my VXIII's, but it's really hard to tell until they get mounted and you start using them. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another sightron SIII. I also wouldn't hesitate to buy VXII for moderate ranges either. For the most part you get what you pay for.