Im really not intetested in impressing the guys at the range. Just looking for a solid cartridge that can shoot flatish to 300, has minimal fuss for either loading or sourcing components, and is suitable for deer and sometimes elk. Some ok options have been presented but I just dont see any of them being the complete package combined with ease of use/ownership that the 7mm mag has. Thanks all. Im off to gunbroker to grab an action.