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Actually, three words…Hammer Copper Bullets
Loading big calibers for smaller game
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dm406
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My wife is shooting antelope with a 338 norma IMP pushing 300 gr.Berger OTM's 2950. With fantastic results and no loss of meat. If it was me I would find a load the 300 win with some 180 accubonds and be done
Great info , have never thought about lead in bullets getting into meat until recently reading some posts. Make me lean mono along with all the recommendations from this post as well as reading tons of others, people sing hammer hunter praises! Will also look into the Barnes lrx even though I haven't heard near as much feedback on it as the hammer hunters. As far as non monolithic goes it seems Nosler Accubonds and Berger are the go to. Learned a lot in this post hope it also helps many others lurking. The information provided has been outstanding! Thanks for all the help ! I sent my buddy this thread and he ordered 100 hammer hunters and is going to work them up! I might have been converted too!
Thanks to all !
Thanks to all !
Heart shots always kill. No reason to ruin much meat. I would use a lighter fast expanding bullet (not varmint) higher speed and flat shooting. 150 gr maybe. No need to slow it down or use a heavier bullet than you would use in a .308 or 30-06.
The .300WM is the only caliber I hunt with. It's as close to a do-it-all as I know of.
memtb
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Ok…just out of curiosity, what caliber would you say is a better do-it-all? Considering I live in Montana and we go from stinking goats up to grizzlies and moose? .338WM? .300WSM? 7mm? I haven't seen a need for them, for what I need. However, I'd like to hear what you're thinking. There just might be another caliber I need to buy a rifle for!Not a bad choice…..it is close!memtb
I've got to be honest, a lot of the reason I first started shooting the .300WM is that it just looked like I thought a cartridge should look. Proportion, capacity, bullet weight, variety of same…it was a definite step up from the 30.06. I love it.
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Yes, deer have run a couple times on me... with no lungs or heart... 2-300 yards. More power is better than not enough... Hornady sst is efficient.
memtb
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.338 WM is a pretty good contender in the "all around" debate as a factory loaded cartridge! My wife is pretty fond of hers and has the utmost confidence in it! I feel that the .338's have a slight edge in performance on the bigger stuff and will still kill the smaller stuff!
Though, I'd personally go with the .338 RUM if I were consider buying a "do it all" NA (only) cartridge!
All that said, I'll not be stepping down in cartridge/caliber, as I'm very happy with my "do it all" world cartridge!
memtbI have a.338 Lapua…it's a safe queen. It would certainly kill anything on the continent, but expensive to buy ammo for, and fairly expensive to reload, compared to the WinMag. I don't know much about the Remington Ultra Mag. I assume it's comparable to the Lapua, with an edge on velocity? I got it for larger game, possibly an Alaska hunt. But mostly to have a heavy hitter at long ranges..338 WM is a pretty good contender in the "all around" debate as a factory loaded cartridge! My wife is pretty fond of hers and has the utmost confidence in it! I feel that the .338's have a slight edge in performance on the bigger stuff and will still kill the smaller stuff!
Though, I'd personally go with the .338 RUM if I were consider buying a "do it all" NA (only) cartridge!
All that said, I'll not be stepping down in cartridge/caliber, as I'm very happy with my "do it all" world cartridge!
memtb
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Forgot to mention the Lapua…..another great .338. I've never really researched…..but are there any .338 Lapua's that can be had at under 9 1/2 pounds scoped, loaded, slung?
Typical complete weight is what would give the 338 WM a leg up for me. Now a Lapua or Ultra under that magic 9 1/2 would be awesome! memtb
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memtb
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Nice! That's a very reasonable hunting weight, with a darn good " all around, do it all" cartridge!
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davidheart
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First time I ever heard of a 338RUM as being a "do-it-all" cartridge. My do all is a 270win and it weighs 7lb with a suppressor. (Which by the way was Jack O'Conner's do all) I have heard many solid arguments for 30-06, 308, 7RM, and 300WM being a do all.... but not 338RUM or 338WM.
A do it all cartridge is your own personal choice and should be able to take any game you hunt at reasonable distance.
Example: I used my 308 as a squirrel, coyote, rabbit, deer rifle once upon a time. (Couldn't afford anything else) That was my do all then.
A cartridge of reasonable case capacity is able to be loaded hot and mild to hunt anything you could get your hands on. Maybe if I lived in Africa or possibly Alaska and all my shots were over 400 yards and I only hunted large game I'd consider the big 338's? But maybe you do. And maybe you only hunt the largest game. In your situation the 300WM seems to be a solid solid choice as your do-all. If it were me for goats to bears I'd look at that or something in the 7mm flavor.
I'm also on the East coast so my personal experience may be different from others.
A do it all cartridge is your own personal choice and should be able to take any game you hunt at reasonable distance.
Example: I used my 308 as a squirrel, coyote, rabbit, deer rifle once upon a time. (Couldn't afford anything else) That was my do all then.
A cartridge of reasonable case capacity is able to be loaded hot and mild to hunt anything you could get your hands on. Maybe if I lived in Africa or possibly Alaska and all my shots were over 400 yards and I only hunted large game I'd consider the big 338's? But maybe you do. And maybe you only hunt the largest game. In your situation the 300WM seems to be a solid solid choice as your do-all. If it were me for goats to bears I'd look at that or something in the 7mm flavor.
I'm also on the East coast so my personal experience may be different from others.
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