jlvandersnick
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Hunting muzzle brakes
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Schnyd112
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I found a photo of the brake with the most concussion I ever experienced. It is on a .223. I was behind the shooter and was amazed at the sound and concussion. It has half a pipe inside another pipe.
That's a jp recoil eliminator. It's loud, kinda ugly, and man does it work. A buddy I shoot with swears by them so I have got to shoot several rifles sporting it. There are louder ones out there, but of any brakes I have shot this seemed to be the best from a shooter standpoint.
There is more to consider when choosing a muzzle break. If you're looking for the best break for reducing recoil I would look at American Precision Arms (APA) Little B*. I have this on a custom 7mm and the recoil is nothing. If you are looking for a break that does a good job with recoil reduction and also help with minimizing muzzle movement, then I would look at JEC Custom. You will need a gunsmith to open up the APA to your specific caliber, but you will need a gunsmith to turn the break to the diameter of your barrel anyways. The JEC break is caliber specific.
Novalondon
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If your ever planning on a suppressor in the future for your hunt rifle(s) I would not worry about using a tapered to fit the barrel style brake.
I have a 26 inch 5R barreled 300 win mag stainless 700 Remington. It came unthreaded and I was like you and wanted a brake to help in the shoulder pain reduction and hopefully not a giant blast to the ears. I bought an APA Gen2 Fat Bastard Brake and had the barrel threaded to fit (5/8x24) it together with the rifle.
Using the Match Federal 190 gr rounds I have to say it took it from a 12 gage slug feeling each time I pulled the trigger to a nice .308 semi auto feel in recoil. Very nice and it is attached with a crescent wrench. I can put it on and take it off whenever I want and put a suppressor on quickly. It is NOT a slim fit as you want but, if your thinking of a suppressor in the future or already own one then this is the way to go. You can have a great shooting session when you go out and shoot or hunt. The sound difference is of course a bit louder is standing beside me but from behind the rifle it is un-noticeable.
Of course, always use ear and eye protection when you shoot.
I have a 26 inch 5R barreled 300 win mag stainless 700 Remington. It came unthreaded and I was like you and wanted a brake to help in the shoulder pain reduction and hopefully not a giant blast to the ears. I bought an APA Gen2 Fat Bastard Brake and had the barrel threaded to fit (5/8x24) it together with the rifle.
Using the Match Federal 190 gr rounds I have to say it took it from a 12 gage slug feeling each time I pulled the trigger to a nice .308 semi auto feel in recoil. Very nice and it is attached with a crescent wrench. I can put it on and take it off whenever I want and put a suppressor on quickly. It is NOT a slim fit as you want but, if your thinking of a suppressor in the future or already own one then this is the way to go. You can have a great shooting session when you go out and shoot or hunt. The sound difference is of course a bit louder is standing beside me but from behind the rifle it is un-noticeable.
Of course, always use ear and eye protection when you shoot.
Rich Coyle
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I have done lots of recoil testing. If your main objective is to reduce felt recoil you need a thicker brake. Also if you want to see the impact of the bullet you need a thicker brake. On the other hand if you objective is to minimally reduce recoil and still maintain a semblance of a light barrel you obviously need a slimmer brake.
Most certainly I proved in the recoil slide if you drill out the brake at thread diameter and leave only a clearance hole in the end of a thin wall brake it doesn't do much at all.
Most certainly I proved in the recoil slide if you drill out the brake at thread diameter and leave only a clearance hole in the end of a thin wall brake it doesn't do much at all.
Sully2
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If you want actual field tests on muzzle breaks then here is a link to the most exhaustive research that I have seen.
Muzzle Brake: Summary of Field Test Results - PrecisionRifleBlog.com
Muzzle Brake: Summary of Field Test Results - PrecisionRifleBlog.com
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I am sorry but I do not understand the message that you are trying to convey in your last sentence
Rich Coyle
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BTL,
Well, at least I am consistent in my inability to communicate. Here goes again. If the inside diameter of the brake is about a 1/16" under the outside diameter, so that it is a thin wall tube, containing only a single baffle at the end of the brake with the hole for the bullet to go through then the brake won't be very effective.
I will add this: If there are multiple baffles with vents to the outside between the muzzle and the baffle through which the bullet passes the brake will be very effective. It will be like a thick wall brake.
Well, at least I am consistent in my inability to communicate. Here goes again. If the inside diameter of the brake is about a 1/16" under the outside diameter, so that it is a thin wall tube, containing only a single baffle at the end of the brake with the hole for the bullet to go through then the brake won't be very effective.
I will add this: If there are multiple baffles with vents to the outside between the muzzle and the baffle through which the bullet passes the brake will be very effective. It will be like a thick wall brake.
RockyMtnMT
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I've shot quite a few and so far none come close to the APS Pain Killer.
Steve
Steve
HammerB1
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I would have to totally agree. I have shot several radial brakes and they are very effective but don't even come close to the Painkillers.
Brian
Rich Coyle
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Never heard of the APS Pain Killer. Have either of you tried the Terminator 3 or Terminator 4?
RockyMtnMT
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Have not had the chance to shoot one of them. They have a very good rep though. I am not sure that I am willing to experiment with any different brakes on our builds. Only if a customer requests a particular break. Otherwise left up to us it will be a PK.
Steve
Rich Coyle
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RockyMtnMT,
I found their web page. I had a Terminator 3 and sold it when I disassembled my 6.5RUMLN but still have a Terminator 2 on my 6.5SLR. I could see impacts at distance like 300 yards or more.
Since I've played with lots of brakes I can tell you from looking at the photos on their sight the Terminator 2 wouldn't stand a chance against any of their brakes. The Terminator 3 might be better than most are used to but I bet APS Pain Killer is better. I'm going to make one from aluminum to compare in my recoil slide. I don't know what angle he uses so I will go with 15* - 20*. That's what I can get in my mill/drill.
I found their web page. I had a Terminator 3 and sold it when I disassembled my 6.5RUMLN but still have a Terminator 2 on my 6.5SLR. I could see impacts at distance like 300 yards or more.
Since I've played with lots of brakes I can tell you from looking at the photos on their sight the Terminator 2 wouldn't stand a chance against any of their brakes. The Terminator 3 might be better than most are used to but I bet APS Pain Killer is better. I'm going to make one from aluminum to compare in my recoil slide. I don't know what angle he uses so I will go with 15* - 20*. That's what I can get in my mill/drill.
