Graf & Sons service

He'll have to mark it up if you're going to fuss and whine about the headstamps and he has to contend with internet Forum rash and product returns. Tack on 50%.
 
There are a few guys who know me personally and if you did you'd know how ignorant that statement is, I can only afford to buy quality but not quantity.
Yes this is cheep brass for a 338 RUM, right now there is this Bertram for 1.50 per case with discounts for volume and then you have Nosler at 2.68 per case and no volume discount, so ya, at a 1.50 it's cheap!! Personally I'm grateful that someone got us some decent brass for the 338 RUM.
 
Tikkamike said:
All they do is just change the stamp and it's all the same run huh? So what's the difference between a "Lott" of brass and a "run" or brass? And to my understanding brass (or anything) that is the same Lott or run are defined as being manufactured by the same guy on the same machine with the same tooling on the same day etc. nothing different so they are as consistent as possible. Otherwise. I don't care what they stamp on the brass. If I order Bertram brass I should get Bertram brass. Seems pretty simple to me. And how hard is it to have good customer service.. Even if I am a raving lunatic making a mountain out of a mole hill a little customer service goes a long way... Or even not being a total B on the phone.
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This sounds like an opportunity for someone/some company who is skilled in/with and inclined to work with brass!
 
I too would not like the different head stamps! If I order a specific item, I expect to get said item, guess I am just anal that way! Now, if they said it was going to be mixed, that's another story. I would just send it back and order else where or keep what I wanted and send the others back! Some brass is better than no brass!!!

Just my 2 cents.
 
I have done hundreds of flawless transactions on this site. There are 2 sides to every story, I chose not to get into a ******* match with that guy. And I am confident there are very few people you will find on this forum that has been less than pleased with any transaction they have done with me. I have seen those type of threads on here before and to argue he said /she said is futile. Neither party ever comes out looking good. So with that go ahead and make your assumptions or just take the guys word for it. I honestly dont care.
 
You clearly care, or you wouldn't have just posted the previous thread, ending with "I honestly dont care."

A guy that demands perfection from other sellers? Ironic to see less than perfect performance.
 
phorwath said:
You clearly care, or you wouldn't have just posted the previous thread, ending with "I honestly dont care."

A guy that demands perfection from other sellers? Ironic to see less than perfect performance.
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this statement is retarded,if mike said he doesnt care what you think then he just doesnt care and thats it.so mike had a little trouble with one transaction out of a million and you feel the need to bring it up? the man just wants what he paid for,and was simply looking for some input,not b.s
 
Don't have a boat in the race but it seems like if I ordered Nosler Ballistic Tips and got some Accubonds or Partitions in the bunch the whole thing would go back or put the ones I didn't order in a bag and send them back. Graf should eat the shipping both ways. Not my mistake but theirs. Have always been pleased with Grafs too.
 
vegas steve said:
this statement is retarded, if mike said he doesnt care what you think then he just doesnt care and thats it.
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Mike could have stated what you just stated, had he wanted. Unlike you, I don't know the mind of Mike. He didn't, for whatever reason. Yet you felt the need to state it on Mike's behalf? How does that work? You know the mind of Mike and express the mind of Mike on his behalf? Are you more qualified than Mike, or simply a cheerleader?

I suspect the only thing the member that purchased the item from Mike wanted, was the same thing you state Mike wanted from Graf & Sons... what he paid for. By the member's/purchaser's own account, Mike hasn't provided what he paid for. So, what's due Mike and good for Mike isn't good for the folk that purchase from Mike? Is that the logic your communicating on behalf of Mike.

Most will see the hypocrisy of Mike opening firing on Graf & Sons for their failure to satisfy, and then failing similarly himself, based on least one sale to a fellow member. Who do you think has more sales? Graf & Sons or Mike? By your own logic, Graf & Sons had a little issue with one sale (to Mike) out of millions of sales, and Mike felt the need to bring it up on this Forum? Shouldn't you be critical of Mike, the same as you're critical of me bringing up Mike's failure to satisfy the buyer in his transaction?

Could you explain again what it is that I felt the need to do, that Mike hadn't already done? Mike created this Thread to notify the membership of Graf & Sons' failure to satisfy on one itsy bitsy purchase (out of their millions of sales) and you support him. I post a link to a member's Thread critical of Mike's transaction/sale. Mike's thread/statement is stellar, yet mine is retarded.

At least Mike has the option to return the items to Graf & Sons and get his funds returned. No such luck to date for the member that purchased the scope rings from Mike.

Notice I haven't claimed your statements are retarded. I wouldn't do that, because it could be interpreted to mean that I'd be implying something directly about you. Your statements are convoluted, inconsistent, and biased to support your desired end point. Tikkamike criticizes a seller and he's a stellar guy in your book. I point out the fact that Mike's got his own problem accurately describing an item he sold, and satisfying a buyer, and I'm... well - something less than stellar.

You wanna start over again? I'll give you a false start...
 
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