F.y.i. us army orders $50 million barrett mrads in 300 prc

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  1. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    You don't understand the cartridge and why it was named the way it was. It IS in fact a .2842" (7mm) diameter bullet. But Pedersen measured from the lands, not the grooves. And most .284" diameter barrels, measure .276/.277" across the lands, and measures .284" across the grooves. So, no, it is in no way a 6.5mm, and it is not in-between the .284 and .264.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.276_Pedersen
     
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    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    ----, just saw your post...After I finished explaining and posting it. Oh well... Never hurts to reinforce it, right? :D
     
  3. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, if they want to give me about 100 of those old "worthless and worn-out" M24s and M40's that I've paid for with my taxes since I was 16, then I'll welcome them with open arms...They know the shipping address. :cool:
     
  4. redleg1013

    redleg1013 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they'll come out through the CMP in 40 or 50 years.
     
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  5. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, when half of us will be half-blind and too old to be shooting LR, and the rest are already taking dirt naps...And they'll sell for about $10,000 each because of inflation.

    That sounds about right. They paid about $150 each for the M1 Garands to be made during WW2, and sell rack-grades at the CMP for over $1,200... :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Phoeniceltic

    Phoeniceltic Well-Known Member

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    Well, I'm still kinda confused why we are filling this Billet? They still have not met the 7.62x54 Quagmire. Is the horse pulverized yet?
     
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  7. North Range Hunter

    North Range Hunter New Member

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    Eric
    This is part of the ASR project which is a USSOCOM solicitation. The original guide lines were the rifle must be capable of firing the following calibers 308, 300NM and 338NM. After testing the Navy (SEAL's) decided to go with the 300PRC. They found it had better performance than the 300NM. The Army (USASOC) is sticking with the 300NM.
    The M2010 is a big Army project and totally separate from the ASR. I would not be surprised if big Army doesn't adopt the Barrett in the near future.
     
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  8. LittleMike

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    The 338, 300WM & 308 Mrad systems exist, what is the mission this weapon system support? I'm sure marketing has a long bullet list of Pro's; on paper there is a clear set of advantages of the PRC over the this is the Army wanting a sexier round because they can and lethality isn't part of the criteria.
     
  9. just country

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    morning, money money money. ammo makers can not or possibly will
    not keep up the civilian reloaders and shooting publics demand
    for shooting supplies. the ammo makers have us over a barrel
    and doing a ---- good job of lubrication.
    NOW the military comes out with a new TOY for long range body
    separation. if and will the ammo makers keep up with the demand for ammo??!!
    who knows. we as shooters will suffer again from the lack of supplies.
    new frontiers--new inventions r really great. I can remember having
    my M-14. I and others did real damage with this weapon. all we
    ask for was more ammo. MONEY MONEY MONEY justme gbot tum
     
  10. Techy

    Techy Well-Known Member

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    300 prc does not have better performance than the NM
     
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  11. RockWizzum

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    Are the majority of barrels going to be chambered in 300 prc? Or did they order 1000 rifles and 10 are actually going to be delivered in 300 prc but to get everyone all fired up they say we just adopted the barrett in prc?
     
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  12. Johnslam

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    member: 96764"]Yeah, another item to throw into the mix beyond bullet weight.

    Another fact that will drive this crowd wild...the average distance of a kill is much, much closer than any technology that exists.

    The number of kills at extreme long range is infinitesimally small.
    Everyone likes the idea of reaching out....but enemies have this nasty habit or moving around....a perfectly winded, doped and executed shot at beyond 1000 yards misses because the target suddenly gets the urge to swat a fly, tie his shoe, or trip on a rock.

    Take a look at stats from wars...kills at less than 100 yards are the norm.

    Want to prove it to yourself? spend a few hours playing a simulation.
    Even on a vid game...where your life is not actually on the line...you will control your perimeter, you will make the kills at 30 to 100 yards 100x more often than you will at 600 to 1000.

    Again, this is simply on a vid game....you can take all the time in the world and use perfect technology for aiming....any your average shot distance will still come in at less than 100 yards average when you are playing as the dedicated sniper.[/QUOTE]



    Pretty sure the typical engagement distance in Afghan is 400 + meters.
     
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  13. Bravo 4

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    I guess all your simulation kills have been under 100 yards. More like 10 feet, the proximity to your tv.:D
    I seriously can’t believe you actually compared the two.
     
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