I bought a Bench Source annealing machine this week and had a chance to play with it tonight. Cases are FC brand 270 Winchester, and the Tempilaq is 650 (yellow) and 450 (lt gray). I ran several cases through at 3, 3.5 and 4 seconds as tests. First, do the torches (flame) appear close enough, or should I get the end of the flame tip closer? Second, I have pics of a pair of each test (3, 3.5 and 4). I would appreciate it if anyone who uses one of these could help me fine tune my settings so that I can start annealing some cases for real. Pics are: case in flame all 3 tests 3.0 sec 3.5 sec 4.0 sec Thanks!