Been kicking around the idea of trying some of these bullets. Right now I am running 140 begers at 3280fps with 70 grains of Retumbo. Out of a 27.75 inch 8 twist Brux . I am getting around 3/8ths moa . I actually shot a 3 shot group this weekend that was .994 @507 yards . Most of the time at that range its around 1.75 -3 inches . But I have shot a good handful of 1.5 or less groups at that range. I was thinking if I could run the 160s at 3000-3100 that it would be a hammer. But I need to run the numbers to see if there would be much of a difference out to 1200 yards. That's all the range I have. But I thought that it would be a kick *** elk round. Any thoughts.