i recieved my order of lr accubond 2nds today. they are .308 dia and 210 grain. i took some pictures and measurements (best i could without fancy measuring devices. one thing to note is that these have a longer bearing surface than 210 VLD i believe. bearing surface measurements... as precise as i could get... 210 LRAB= 0.597 210 VLD= 0.573 215 HYBRID= 0.545 one thing i notice is the very long boattail compared to the original accubond, also the sharp transition from bearing to boattail. the pics compare 210 vld, 210 hybrid, and LRAB 210. teh one with another accubond is a 7mm 140 grain to compare shape.