3200 fps deer gun 18 inch barrel

[284saum]

Cartridge          : 6 mm Creedmoor
Bullet             : .243, 80, Barnes 'TTSX' BT 30208
Useable Case Capaci: 51.213 grain H2O = 3.325 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.790 inch = 70.87 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

21 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                       102.1     51.8     3.36    3342    98.7    62000   16711   0.891  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        92.5     45.8     2.97    3292    99.8    62000   15178   0.877  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828ssc                        103.0     49.9     3.24    3255    92.3    61439   15760   0.887  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL16                        98.7     45.4     2.94    3254    99.4    62000   14968   0.886  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      97.0     47.3     3.06    3228    97.2    62000   15069   0.886  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      91.7     45.8     2.97    3223    96.4    62000   15078   0.886  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        91.7     45.8     2.97    3223    96.4    62000   15078   0.886  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL19                       101.6     48.0     3.11    3222    94.4    62000   15165   0.880  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame                     87.4     44.0     2.85    3206    99.4    62000   14218   0.888  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            87.3     41.2     2.67    3206    99.6    62000   14306   0.893  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           101.2     45.7     2.96    3199    98.8    62000   14463   0.896  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL15                        88.2     41.6     2.70    3197    99.3    62000   14239   0.893  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 99.1     45.3     2.93    3197    99.7    62000   13836   0.888  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL22                       103.0     49.2     3.19    3196    93.5    58501   15567   0.900  ! Near Maximum !

 

[284saum]

Cartridge          : 6.5 PRC
Bullet             : .264, 100, Nosler BalTip 26100
Useable Case Capaci: 66.635 grain H2O = 4.327 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.948 inch = 74.88 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

23 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                        99.5     65.7     4.26    3382    99.2    62000   19109   0.909  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828ssc                        101.0     63.7     4.13    3323    93.7    62000   18291   0.893  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        90.1     58.0     3.76    3322   100.0    62000   17183   0.898  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL22                       102.4     63.6     4.12    3307    95.4    62000   18262   0.909  ! Near Maximum !
AA MagPro                          102.4     66.9     4.33    3304    91.1    62000   18628   0.908  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     102.3     68.4     4.43    3296    96.2    62000   17689   0.898  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL16                        96.3     57.6     3.73    3291    99.7    62000   17002   0.906  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      94.8     60.1     3.90    3273    98.0    62000   17232   0.903  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      89.6     58.2     3.77    3270    97.2    62000   17252   0.904  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        89.6     58.2     3.77    3270    97.2    62000   17252   0.904  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL19                        99.3     61.0     3.95    3269    95.4    62000   17412   0.898  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL23                       103.0     61.9     4.01    3249    99.6    58562   17089   0.923  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame                     85.4     55.9     3.62    3244    99.8    62000   16130   0.906  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            98.9     58.1     3.77    3241    99.3    62000   16474   0.915  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            85.2     52.3     3.39    3241    99.8    62000   16162   0.910  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831sc                    100.6     62.4     4.05    3240    92.9    62000   16958   0.894  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 96.8     57.5     3.73    3235    99.9    62000   15713   0.905  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL15                        86.1     52.9     3.43    3234    99.6    62000   16115   0.911  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            88.0     53.2     3.45    3227    99.8    62000   15591   0.896  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        87.3     54.8     3.55    3220    99.0    62000   16195   0.914  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                       96.9     58.3     3.78    3218    96.6    62000   16292   0.900  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                            95.2     58.1     3.77    3218    96.7    62000   16274   0.900  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Varget                      89.1     53.0     3.43    3208    99.6    62000   15530   0.899  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron                    91.3     55.4     3.59    3207    97.3    62000   16031   0.896  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   101.8     60.8     3.94    3205    93.4    62000   16436   0.897  ! Near Maximum !

 

[284saum]

Cartridge          : 6.5-284 Norma
Bullet             : .264, 100, Nosler PART 16319
Useable Case Capaci: 63.115 grain H2O = 4.098 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.902 inch = 73.71 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

18 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                       103.0     64.4     4.17    3349    98.7    59970   18798   0.918  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        94.0     57.4     3.72    3325    99.9    62000   17044   0.899  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL16                       100.5     56.9     3.69    3295    99.6    62000   16842   0.908  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      98.6     59.3     3.84    3274    97.7    62000   16989   0.904  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        93.2     57.3     3.72    3270    96.9    62000   16989   0.906  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      93.2     57.3     3.72    3270    96.9    62000   16989   0.906  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL19                       103.0     59.9     3.88    3263    94.9    61699   17084   0.901  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame                     88.8     55.1     3.57    3245    99.6    62000   15937   0.907  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           103.0     57.4     3.72    3245    99.1    62000   16275   0.917  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828ssc                        103.0     61.6     3.99    3243    92.0    58315   17526   0.915  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            88.6     51.5     3.34    3242    99.7    62000   15958   0.912  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                100.8     56.7     3.68    3237    99.9    62000   15539   0.906  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL15                        89.4     52.0     3.37    3233    99.5    62000   15886   0.912  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            91.4     52.3     3.39    3224    99.7    62000   15371   0.896  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       86.4     50.2     3.26    3221    99.9    62000   15461   0.910  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        90.7     53.9     3.49    3220    98.7    62000   15937   0.915  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      100.5     57.2     3.71    3213    96.2    62000   15973   0.901  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                            98.6     57.1     3.70    3213    96.3    62000   15957   0.901  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            88.6     48.2     3.12    3207   100.0    62000   14371   0.914  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Varget                      92.3     52.0     3.37    3203    99.4    62000   15266   0.899  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron                    94.4     54.3     3.52    3201    96.9    62000   15688   0.897  ! Near Maximum !

 

[WildRose]

So this is a head scratcher. What cartridge will generate 3200 fps out of a 18-20 inch barrel firing a bullet heavy enough for deer. Wanting the short barrel to make running suppressed easier to handle in the blind and shooting off hand. Please dont suggest 223. Already have 300blk, 450 bushmaster, and 223 in short barrels. Thought about 300wsm with 125 grain bullets.

6.5 RM, .264wm, 6.5 PRC. Running 100-130gr bullets you should be able to hit your goal with either of the first two and at least get close with the third.

 

[STEEL SLINGER]

To each their own, but....why? Obtaining the fps goal is going to push you to low BC bullets in any caliber and negate the ballistic advantage. Yeah, a 300WM/WSM will get you there with 125gr BTs but I wouldn't choose that setup, I'd shoot a more ideal bullet and take my medicine in a fps reduction.

Don't know why you need so much speed to shoot at running deer from in a blind, I would be more concerned with a good caliber and bullet selection. I may not be following what your wanting to do. I guess what I am saying is if it is going to be close range shooting why the need for all the speed?

I must agree with these guys - ??why?? Blind hunting, running deer, short barrel hopped up bullet. . .doesn't make sense. But it can be done and lord knows I've done my fair share of unsensable shooting! I do think the better route would be a better bullet i.e, weight/construction with a little sacrifice in the speed department.

 

[AZShooter]

From my 6mm-284 files:

First barrel I worked on with my lathe, I rechambered a 20" 243 to 6mm-284. Talk about muzzle flash! I used necked down Winchester 284 brass


Tried Nosler 80 gr ballistic tips. Got the Ballistic Tips to go 3300 with H-1000.

Also shot 51 gr of RL-17 and 87 gr V-max got 3375


I think you could get a 90-95 gr bullet to go 3200 fps easily.

 

[lancetkenyon]

6.5 SS would be close with a 120 TTSX, 120 Sierra Pro Hunter, 120, SMK, 123 SMK. Definitely with a 100 TTSX, 107 SMK. or 107 TMK.

I push a 150 SMK @ 3160 from a 25.75" barrel.

During fire forming, I got 3250 from a 127 LRX. I am about to start load development with that bullet, and think 3300 should be possible from my 25.75" barrel.

 

[Joefrazell]

Why do you need 3200 fps? Must be for a point and shoot style of hunting rig?

 

[snox801]

you could do a 6mmAr turbo. Fits in standard ar mags. Seems to be a great round. Not sure the 6mm grendel would get to that. And the6mm 6.5.5 grendel is great for deer.

 

[FEENIX]

To each their own, but....why? Obtaining the fps goal is going to push you to low BC bullets in any caliber and negate the ballistic advantage. Yeah, a 300WM/WSM will get you there with 125gr BTs but I wouldn't choose that setup, I'd shoot a more ideal bullet and take my medicine in a fps reduction.

Yep, and "my personal preference" is the 215 Berger.

 

[Wedgy]

.243 Win with a Berger 105 and Reloder 26, I ran them at 3,400fps no pressure until 3,450 in a 26" barrel so you should get 3,200 out of an 18"

 

[RockyMtnMT]

My daughter's 7-08 is running our 131g Hammer Hunters at 3150fps. If I remember correctly. This a short barreled Weatherby vanguard youth rifle. This would be a good option that gets you close to your goals without shooting super light for cartridge bullets or just too small of cal.

Steve

 

[mtmuley]

Steve, pretty cool she's still shooting that rifle. I watched her smack her first antelope with it. Biggest buck of the trip. mtmuley

 

[RockyMtnMT]

Steve, pretty cool she's still shooting that rifle. I watched her smack her first antelope with it. Biggest buck of the trip. mtmuley

Yep she shot her elk and muley with it this year. Still has that terrible trigger too.

Steve