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3200 fps deer gun 18 inch barrel

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So this is a head scratcher. What cartridge will generate 3200 fps out of a 18-20 inch barrel firing a bullet heavy enough for deer. Wanting the short barrel to make running suppressed easier to handle in the blind and shooting off hand. Please dont suggest 223. Already have 300blk, 450 bushmaster, and 223 in short barrels. Thought about 300wsm with 125 grain bullets.
 
To each their own, but....why? Obtaining the fps goal is going to push you to low BC bullets in any caliber and negate the ballistic advantage. Yeah, a 300WM/WSM will get you there with 125gr BTs but I wouldn't choose that setup, I'd shoot a more ideal bullet and take my medicine in a fps reduction.
 
6 mm dasher or larger case 80-85 grain bullet. If memory serves me correctly I was running 3100 with a 85 Barnes TSX. Was with a 22" barrel. I would have to look at 80 gr ttsx with dasher or larger case
 
Don't know why you need so much speed to shoot at running deer from in a blind, I would be more concerned with a good caliber and bullet selection. I may not be following what your wanting to do. I guess what I am saying is if it is going to be close range shooting why the need for all the speed?
 
6.5 Sherman shortmag? There is magic in the Shermans. 6.5 SAUM Should get very close with 140's. Should be easy with 130's or less.

.243 ai should push 100-110's very close to that. 6x284 I think will do it easily.

3200 FPS is not that fast.
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .243 Win
Bullet             : .243, 85, Nosler PART SP 16314
Useable Case Capaci: 49.670 grain H2O = 3.225 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

18 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                       103.0     50.7     3.29    3276    98.5    60249   17137   0.912  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        93.9     45.1     2.92    3249    99.9    62000   15573   0.894  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL16                       100.3     44.7     2.90    3214    99.5    62000   15359   0.905  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      98.5     46.6     3.02    3190    97.4    62000   15489   0.903  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        93.0     45.1     2.92    3184    96.5    62000   15476   0.905  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      93.0     45.1     2.92    3184    96.5    62000   15476   0.905  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .25-06 Rem
Bullet             : .257, 100, Nosler BalTip 25100
Useable Case Capaci: 63.595 grain H2O = 4.129 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.250 inch = 82.55 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

26 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                        97.3     61.3     3.97    3258    99.1    60000   19119   0.935  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828ssc                         98.9     59.6     3.86    3204    93.7    60000   18327   0.919  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        87.9     54.1     3.50    3199   100.0    60000   17156   0.922  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL23                       102.5     58.8     3.81    3188    99.8    60000   17294   0.929  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL22                       100.1     59.3     3.85    3187    95.4    60000   18267   0.924  ! Near Maximum !
AA MagPro                          100.2     62.4     4.05    3184    91.1    60000   18655   0.933  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     100.3     64.0     4.15    3180    96.2    60000   17757   0.924  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL16                        94.0     53.7     3.48    3170    99.7    60000   16978   0.930  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .270 Win
Bullet             : .277, 110, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30274
Useable Case Capaci: 65.260 grain H2O = 4.237 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

21 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                       102.9     66.6     4.31    3282    98.5    62000   17334   0.882  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        93.1     58.8     3.81    3228    99.8    62000   15702   0.870  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL16                        99.4     58.2     3.77    3190    99.3    62000   15469   0.879  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .280 Ackley
Bullet             : .284, 120, Nosler BalTip 28120
Useable Case Capaci: 68.348 grain H2O = 4.438 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

18 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL26                       103.0     69.8     4.52    3249    98.3    60118   17997   0.901  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL17                        93.9     62.1     4.02    3223    99.8    62000   16344   0.883  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL16                       100.3     61.5     3.99    3187    99.4    62000   16109   0.894  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Springfield
Bullet             : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125
Useable Case Capaci: 64.854 grain H2O = 4.211 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

8 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL17                       103.0     64.6     4.19    3227    97.7    60118   14031   0.843  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       102.9     65.0     4.21    3183    92.6    62000   13607   0.843  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     102.9     65.0     4.21    3183    92.6    62000   13607   0.843  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223                      92.6     61.7     4.00    3182    97.9    62000   13152   0.838  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame                     98.1     62.5     4.05    3177    97.3    62000   13122   0.837  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            98.2     54.9     3.56    3175   100.0    62000   12163   0.844  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            97.6     58.4     3.78    3170    97.6    62000   13185   0.847  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .300 WSM
Bullet             : .308, 125, Nosler Accubond 52165
Useable Case Capaci: 75.752 grain H2O = 4.918 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 19.0 inch = 482.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 103 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

9 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant RL17                       102.1     74.8     4.85    3436    99.1    62000   15935   0.845  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       101.0     74.6     4.83    3366    94.6    62000   15519   0.854  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     101.0     74.6     4.83    3366    94.6    62000   15519   0.854  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223                      91.0     70.8     4.59    3353    98.9    62000   14807   0.857  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame                     96.4     71.7     4.65    3350    98.5    62000   14804   0.856  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            96.1     67.1     4.35    3347    98.7    62000   14857   0.863  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      89.1     67.0     4.34    3337    99.8    62000   14216   0.859  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL15                        96.8     67.6     4.38    3335    98.3    62000   14729   0.863  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            96.6     63.0     4.09    3332   100.0    62000   13572   0.863  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       91.5     69.8     4.52    3331    99.4    62000   14537   0.866  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       93.4     65.3     4.23    3324    99.1    62000   14400   0.862  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            98.8     67.9     4.40    3323    98.6    62000   14238   0.849  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        98.1     70.0     4.53    3316    97.0    62000   14662   0.866  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Varget                      99.4     67.2     4.35    3295    98.1    62000   14074   0.853  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        85.0     64.8     4.20    3292   100.0    62000   13440   0.861  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                           100.1     66.0     4.28    3292    98.3    62000   13936   0.857  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208xbr                         92.2     64.4     4.17    3291    99.5    62000   13730   0.858  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        90.2     61.1     3.96    3290   100.0    62000   13105   0.856  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                         91.7     69.0     4.47    3285    96.5    62000   14199   0.859  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp                     91.7     62.0     4.02    3282   100.0    62000   12553   0.866  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron                   101.4     70.0     4.54    3281    94.5    62000   14225   0.853  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007ssc                         99.6     70.5     4.57    3274    93.9    62000   14264   0.863  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator                89.5     66.7     4.32    3270    98.6    62000   13694   0.860  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron                   100.5     67.2     4.35    3258    94.7    62000   13838   0.855  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   91.4     62.8     4.07    3251    99.7    62000   13089   0.857  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RL10x                       87.8     57.8     3.75    3243   100.0    62000   12338   0.869  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     103.0     74.3     4.81    3230    93.6    54357   14937   0.906
 
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