Jim see paragraph #3 of my post...
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I've heard the model 7 mentioned and it is a dandy. Bought one in 97 in 260. It works real well with handloads. Have not heard it mentioned i don't think but remington makes a model 7 youth, it is made for youngsters and small statured adults. It has a shorter length of pull and fits nicely to females. You have enough suggestions already on caliber. All mentioned calibers with proper shot placement will kill equally. No caliber is good with poor shot placement. Hit an animal in the guts or leg and you have a long chase on your hands. Flinching is probably the worst enemy of shot placement, right behind no practice at all.
270 win is probably the best all around gun though
270 win is probably the best all around gun though
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You must have a foul mouth like me if autocorrect is changing words to titty. My biggest one is shitshow
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I have read the threads and have to agree 243 and 6.5 Creed are both excellent rounds. I have shot both and agree the 243 is a bit light for elk. I purchased a Remington 700 6.5 with a Magpul stock and love it. The recoil is not much more than the 243.
I have read the threads and have to agree 243 and 6.5 Creed are both excellent rounds. I have shot both and agree the 243 is a bit light for elk. I purchased a Remington 700 6.5 with a Magpul stock and love it. The recoil is not much more than the 243
I have read the threads and have to agree 243 and 6.5 Creed are both excellent rounds. I have shot both and agree the 243 is a bit light for elk. I purchased a Remington 700 6.5 with a Magpul stock and love it. The recoil is not much more than the 243
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gotcha, I just started load developement with the eld-x using Tac and its looking very promising.
Only reason to consider the 7 over the 6.5 is if you want to load heavier than 140's to bridge the gap up to your dedicated elk/bear rifle. The 7 will allow you load 80gr or more over your .25, while the 6.5 will only give you 25gr or so.
Ballistically if you run 140's in both you'll have a bit more FPS out of the 7 and a better BC out of the 6.5. The 6.5 should have a very slight edge (couple inches drop and windage at 450 for example) at distance.
Ballistically if you run 140's in both you'll have a bit more FPS out of the 7 and a better BC out of the 6.5. The 6.5 should have a very slight edge (couple inches drop and windage at 450 for example) at distance.
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I have a Winchester model 70 .243 and it always has been a real deer slayer here in the south, great for those 100 yrd in the woods shoots and great for those 440 yrd across the field shoots you will occasionally come across. Also well suited for the hogs and coyote I have took as well. The ammo is really easy too get any were stay with a 1:10 to 1:9 twist with a 4-12×50 scope you will do just fine for a first gun that's my opinion. Also I have never lost an animal as of yet with that rifle. But you asked about 6.5CM or 7x08 I would go with 7x08. The 7mm has been a proven effective killing projectile for a long time since WW1 and has good BC with many bullet weight and styles to pick from. So if you reload then more than enough options. As for the 6.5CM my opinion is I don't like them, not enough service life for me to be proven. In the 6.5mm defence the bullet has been around since the world wars also and kiled our late Presedent Kennedy. The hype and fad factor makes the 6.5CM ammo expensive and it's not very available in my area. Plus it was made for a long range target round and does a good job for that purpose. I believe that it is easy to shoot through the wind and has a fairly flat trajectory so a lot of people jumped at it to get into the tactile hype craze were it has become like the IPhone with all the add on apps you can desire. But that's my opinion. After all a gun is a gun, all will shoot, and all will kill. Just take time and match your need to the rifle don't get something that is not well suited for you needs. Money don't grow on trees n things are not cheep when we buy the wrong stuff.
I went through the exact same struggle when I ordered my NULA. When I placed the order I had decided on a 7mm-08, but about a 2 months into the build, I called up Melvin Forbes to see if it was too late to change my mind. He was more than accommodating, and I went with the 6.5 Creedmoor. Glad I did.
It shoots Hornady 120 Amax and handloaded 129 SSTs & 140 Partitions to the same POI, sub-moa.
My Ruger 7mm-08 now sits idle.
Bottom line:
+1 6.5 Creedmoor
It shoots Hornady 120 Amax and handloaded 129 SSTs & 140 Partitions to the same POI, sub-moa.
My Ruger 7mm-08 now sits idle.
Bottom line:
+1 6.5 Creedmoor
I have been running the numbers on a 7-08. With the advent of very high BC bullets in 7mm, this presents a very good option for a long range target cartridge.
Just one example is Hornady's 180gr. ELD-M with a G1 BC of .798 would be an very interesting setup. Combined with some Lapua brass and some RL17 / H414 I would think it would be a very capable long range cartridge.
Stabilizing that might be an issue with many factory rifles. I would think 1-8 or faster would be required.
175gr. bonded bullets with their high sectional density would also be an excellent choice for someone who needs to take some of the thicker skinned animals, where additional penetration is required.
I know Sierra and Berger also have some very high BC offerings in the heavier 7mm projectiles.
Has anyone got any velocity numbers on the heavier bullets in a 7-08?
