Best 7mm case for 162gn eldx

[Farmerbrown32]

Right I agree with the more efficient case design, but I already have lots of rum brass and dies and a wyatts extended mag box. Just was wondering about switching

 

[Techy]

I think any on the 7's would shoot it fine. Kind of up to what interests you.

Seems like every 7mm has its own loyal following. I would say the 2 most popular are the rem mag and recently the 28 nosler.

I push 180 berger hybrids at 2970 out of my 7 saum. I bet those 162's would scream. Shameless plug, I am selling my custom 7 saum

For reference I have got out to about a mile with the saum

 

[yobuck]

I think any on the 7's would shoot it fine. Kind of up to what interests you.

Seems like every 7mm has its own loyal following. I would say the 2 most popular are the rem mag and recently the 28 nosler.

I push 180 berger hybrids at 2970 out of my 7 saum. I bet those 162's would scream. Shameless plug, I am selling my custom 7 saum

For reference I have got out to about a mile with the saum

What im about to say is what tends to get me in trouble here.
But in around 1970 Hornady introduced a 162 gr match 7mm bullet which they still make. Difference is the original bullet has a higher BC than the one currently made.
Also at that time at least in some places, people were necking down 300 Wby cases for those bullets.
And prior to that they were necking it down to 6.5.
With 30" barrels, even with the few good powders then available these type velocities were common.
And with the newer powders like 7828, 3450 fps is common with the 162 even with 28" barrels. Ditto with the STW which came a little later, and of coarse the newer Ultra mag. So other than more choices at least arguably being a good thing, what else is new and better?
I would argue that if the ball has moved at all for the 7mm as for performance, it's pretty much been sideways only. like all other cartridges, there comes a time to move on when better results are desired.

 

[MAGA]

7mm Rem Mag or 28 Nosler

 

[bkillion28]

7mm Rem Mag or 28 Nosler

28 nosler

 

[Wild Monkey]

TexasTB said it, the7-08 can Shoot the 162 Efficiently. The Regular .280 can do it quite Well, even the .284 is more than capable of effectively shooting the 162 ELD. This is the Reason behind my new "7-RPC" Build, just slightly more case capacity than the regular 7-08 and slightly shorter for more Bullet. The RPC also offers the user Palma Brass in .308. You don't run out of Height like with the Ackley Improved (where your bullet takes up more of the Powder Room you gained). All these Magnums (previously mentioned in this thread) are pure Overkill, & IMO a waste of Powder. /Edited for Banter...

 

[WildRose]

Hey there.
I am thinking about building a 7mm long range deer rifle around the 162gn eldx and I was wondering which case would be optimal for that projectile , any help would be appreciated.

In spite of the hype there is no "best case".

I'm an absolute diehard for the 7mm STW but if I were starting out today I'd probably build all of my magnums on variants of the .375 Ruger case by doing nothing but necking them down.

If you don't want that much recoil stick to the 7mm RM or .280/.284w cases.

 

[WildRose]

What is "long range" to you?

For a truly "long range" (to meet MY criteria of 1000+) projectile, I would be looking at a 175-197gr bullet. Like a Hybrid, Elite Hunter, ELD-X, ELD-M, SMK, VLD (Berger or Matrix), etc.
And for a truly "long range" case design, I would look at a medium to big magnum. 7SAUM, 7WSM, 7SS, 7.21 Firebird, 7.21 Tomahawk, 7RM, 7LRM, 7STW, 7-300WM, 7RUM, 28 Nosler, 7 Dakota, .284 Jarret, 7 Allen Mag, etc.

If 600-800 is your definition of "long range", that opens up a few more cartridges. .280AI is one of my favorites. .280Rem, .284 Norma (or Win), 7 Sherman, etc.

I would not personally take a shot at big game over 1000 yards. Except coyotes. I will shoot those suckers at any range I see them.

Even if you can't hit them keep them scared and running.

My dad taught me young that in sheep and cattle country you'll never fail to make a friend taking a shot at a coyote.

You wouldn't believe how many friends I've made over the years getting caught shooting at a coyote in someone else's pasture.

 

[MudRunner2005]

TexasTB said it, the7-08 can Shoot the 162 Efficiently, the Regular .280 can do it quite Well, even the .284 is more than capable. All these Magnums are pure Overkill, & IMO a waste of Powder. This is the Reason behind my new "7-RPC" Build, just slightly more case capacity than the regular 7-08 and slightly shorter for more Bullet. You don't run out of Height like with the Ackley Improved and the RPC offers the user the Palma Brass in .308.

Ummm... WHAT???

First off, the 7mm-08, 280/.280 AI, and .284 Win or .284 Norma, are NOT magnum cartridges.

Secondly, how are they overkill?

Thirdly, what do you mean when you say "running out of height with an AI cartridge"?

Fourth, AI cartridges don't improve case length, so how would you run out of mag length any more so than with a regular cartridge. It actually allows you to fit more powder in the case at the same seating depth with LESS compression.

5th, please explain how your magnum bolt face 7 PRC is not a magnum, yet, the others are?

 

[yobuck]

Ummm... WHAT???

First off, the 7mm-08, 280/.280 AI, and .284 Win or .284 Norma, are NOT magnum cartridges.

Secondly, how are they overkill?

Thirdly, what do you mean when you say "running out of height with an AI cartridge"?

Fourth, AI cartridges don't improve case length, so how would you run out of mag length any more so than with a regular cartridge. It actually allows you to fit more powder in the case at the same seating depth with LESS compression.

5th, please explain how your magnum bolt face 7 PRC is not a magnum, yet, the others are?

because its 2018, and not 2000. lol

 

[B23]

Maybe take a look at the 7mm Blaser Mag. I know, most of you are probably thinking a 7mm what?? lol

The 7mm Blaser mag is a belt less cartridge that kind of looks like a longer version of the WSM case. It's a little shorter than the 7mm Rem Mag but is a bit fatter and holds just a tick more case capacity than does the 7mm Rem mag.

I had Shawn w/Defensive Edge Rifles build me one a couple years ago off of a Rem 700 LA that I had. Mine wears a 26in Hart barrel and Shawn did his +P throat on it. From a 26in tube I shoot the 180 Bergers 3035-3050 using RL26. The 175 ELD-X goes a smidge over 3100 so I'd imagine the 162's would probably shoot somewhere around 3200.

 

[MudRunner2005]

because its 2018, and not 2000. lol

Regardless... Read what he said and read my post again... Unless you're stating that none of that matters because it's 2018... Morons don't have any reading comprehension and intelligence, in which case, I might be able to concur with you... Because liberals and Democrats do the same thing.

 

[cjl2010]

Regardless... Read what he said and read my post again... Unless you're stating that none of that matters because it's 2018... Morons don't have any reading comprehension and intelligence, in which case, I might be able to concur with you... Because liberals and Democrats do the same thing.

You should read it again. He gave praise to the cartridges he mentioned, then made a statement about magnums. One could assume he is referring to the list lance mentioned.

 

[MudRunner2005]

You should read it again. He gave praise to the cartridges he mentioned, then made a statement about magnums. One could assume he is referring to the list lance mentioned.

Maybe if he would use proper punctuation, then people could actually understand what he said. Other than that, it sounded like something Corky from Life Goes On would say.