Hornady ELD-X Official Thread

[MTLIVIN]

Plan to work up in .5gr. Increments while watching for further signs of excessive pressure (doubt that I will get to or even try Hornady's Max load of 73.8gr.). 73.8 seems a bit high to me; have shot 73gr. of H4831sc behind 190 ABLRs w/o excessive pressure signs.

Your thoughts?

I agree completely, based on experience w the 300 & H4831 I wouldn't feel safe behind the max load by Hornady, the 200 AB is 71.5 max from Hogdgon and the 200 partition is 72 max. Did they give you a max velocity to run with, that would be a better indicator, I have had some large variations in powered lots over the years.

 

[Don Titus]

I agree completely, based on experience w the 300 & H4831 I wouldn't feel safe behind the max load by Hornady, the 200 AB is 71.5 max from Hogdgon and the 200 partition is 72 max. Did they give you a max velocity to run with, that would be a better indicator, I have had some large variations in powered lots over the years.

Hornady didn't provide any velocity data. It's interesting though, my Lyman book shows 74+ (compressed) @ 2816 for 200 gr. Jacketed HPBT, but Lyman data seems to be generally less conservative than any of the others. Lee's Modern Reloading (2nd edition) shows 72 @2825 for the same bullet; Hornady is 74.1 for the 195 BTHP and 68.9 for the 208 Amax @2700. When I spoke the the Hornady tech to get the load data reported in my previous post, he didn't say anything about compressed loads, but I'd be willing to bet that @ 73.8 it is slightly compressed or very close to it.

If I get to 72.5 w/o signs of over pressure, I'll take it one tenth grain at a time and not go beyond 73gr. At 73 I should be able to produce about 2825-2850 which is what I got with the 190 ABLR. After my next series of tests, I will update this thread.

Will also shoot some 300 yard groups and if they are up to snuff. Then will try some fine tuning by reducing the jump from .020 down to .010.

 

[Lefty7mmstw]

Hornady didn't provide any velocity data. It's interesting though, my Lyman book shows 74+ (compressed) @ 2816 for 200 gr. Jacketed HPBT, but Lyman data seems to be generally less conservative than any of the others. Lee's Modern Reloading (2nd edition) shows 72 @2825 for the same bullet; Hornady is 74.1 for the 195 BTHP and 68.9 for the 208 Amax @2700. When I spoke the the Hornady tech to get the load data reported in my previous post, he didn't say anything about compressed loads, but I'd be willing to bet that @ 73.8 it is slightly compressed or very close to it.

If I get to 72.5 w/o signs of over pressure, I'll take it one tenth grain at a time and not go beyond 73gr. At 73 I should be able to produce about 2825-2850 which is what I got with the 190 ABLR. After my next series of tests, I will update this thread.

Will also shoot some 300 yard groups and if they are up to snuff. Then will try some fine tuning by reducing the jump from .020 down to .010.

The Lyman book is using a milder primer in the 300win than most books. They use the wlr while most of the others are using a mag. primer in the cartridge... They can safely get away with a bit more powder.... A bit of apples and oranges I suppose...

If I ever bother to run the 200eldx in my 300win I'll go straight to rl22 at 71-72 grains. With the 200sierra or 200 partition I can get just over 2900 fps safely in my Browning a-bolt ss lh boss 300win with rl22. I have some test loads with rl33 loaded with the 200eldx in 300rum brass, but I have to re-sight the rifle first as she just got the 6-24x elite from my 7stw after I mounted a new Viper pst 6-24x on the stw.

 

[Swamplord]

Apples to Apples !

 

[just country]

morning, what is wrong with the new Barnes LRX?? all this hoopla about the Hornandy

Barnes is under new engineering management. the new staff has taken a very well

designed bullet and made a pure killing machine. I am biased toward Barnes Bullets. I

have never heard of a failure with the new Barnes LRX. Boy my ear is going to b

chewed up.

Berger bullets in the larger Magnums has had performance failures with the heavy

weight bullets. I use barnes, bergers, nosler, lapua bullets. I even have some

Remington Bronze tips, excellent bullet. The only Hornandy bullets I have had

success with is the 154gr 7mm.

Thank U

 

[8andbait]

morning, what is wrong with the new Barnes LRX??

thank U

...BC

 

[SidecarFlip]

...BC

Yep... The Barnes looks like a fat broad compared to the Hornady or conversely the Berger VLD.

Fat broads don't fly well but they are good for cuddling.............

 

[captacademy]

Just got the notification that my 6.5 143s have shipped can't wait to try em out

Who did your order them from?

 

[Don Titus]

The Lyman book is using a milder primer in the 300win than most books. They use the wlr while most of the others are using a mag. primer in the cartridge... They can safely get away with a bit more powder.... A bit of apples and oranges I suppose...

If I ever bother to run the 200eldx in my 300win I'll go straight to rl22 at 71-72 grains. With the 200sierra or 200 partition I can get just over 2900 fps safely in my Browning a-bolt ss lh boss 300win with rl22. I have some test loads with rl33 loaded with the 200eldx in 300rum brass, but I have to re-sight the rifle first as she just got the 6-24x elite from my 7stw after I mounted a new Viper pst 6-24x on the stw.

Thanks for your insight. Regarding RL22, Hornady load data show 60.1 to 73.1 grains...I haven't tried it yet because, using 190 ABLR's, my rifle shot better with H4831sc than with RL22, H4350 or H1000. I'll give RL22 a try after I complete working up my H5831sc load. Will load a few with WLR primers and see how they do ... maybe they will allow me to work up to 73.8gr. ...the max load given to me by the Hornsdy tech I spoke with. Both Lyman and Lee manuals specify large rifle primers, the others call for magnum primers. I guess 200gr. bullets are a little on the light side for Retumbo?

 

[just country]

morning, I have not seen or read anything about the BC of the Hornady bullets.

I can tell u that the LRX Barnes in not a board

for reference:
Barnes
7mm 145gr. LRX
L. 1.422
ogive starts at .720
bt starts at .213
BC .486

7mm Barnes LRX
L 1.582
BC .550

Berger 7MM
168gr. VLD
L 1.480
ogive starts at .800
bt starts at .217
BC .617

THE BARNES LRX BULLETS DO NOT LOOK LIKE BOARDS TO ME???? MAYBE U NEED TO CHECK THE DEPTH OF UR SAW DUST??

MY THINKING IS TO BUY THE BEST TO POSSIBLY MAKE THE BEST??

 

[codyadams]

morning, what is wrong with the new Barnes LRX?? all this hoopla about the Hornandy

Barnes is under new engineering management. the new staff has taken a very well

designed bullet and made a pure killing machine. I am biased toward Barnes Bullets. I

have never heard of a failure with the new Barnes LRX. Boy my ear is going to b

chewed up.

Berger bullets in the larger Magnums has had performance failures with the heavy

weight bullets. I use barnes, bergers, nosler, lapua bullets. I even have some

Remington Bronze tips, excellent bullet. The only Hornandy bullets I have had

success with is the 154gr 7mm.

Thank U

twice the price

 

[codyadams]

morning, I have not seen or read anything about the BC of the Hornady bullets.

I can tell u that the LRX Barnes in not a board

for reference:
Barnes
7mm 145gr. LRX
L. 1.422
ogive starts at .720
bt starts at .213
BC .486

Berger
168gr. VLD
L 1.480
ogive starts at .800
bt starts at .217
BC .617

Barnes lrx 30 cal 200 grain bc: .546
Hornady eld-x 30 cal 200 grain bc: .626

Barnes lrx 7mm 168 gr bc: .550
Hornady eldx 7mm 162 gr bc: 613

Barnes lrx .338 cal 280 gr bc: .667
Hornady eld .338 cal 285 gr bc: 789

And as I said, Hornady is half the price of Barnes

 

[Elkhunter1983]

If you go off of barnes bc you wont hit your mark at extended ranges

 

[codyadams]

If you go off of barnes bc you wont hit your mark at extended ranges

^ this too. Hornady tested their BC with doplar radar, its accurate. There are very good reasons people are anxious to see how these bullets perform, just do a little research.

If you like your barnes, good, stick with them. I wish you many dead critters.

This bullet is just a different choice for people who like to get all the performance possible out of a rifle, and are trying to squeeze out a little more. Part of being a long range hunter is constantly trying to do better and improve, not only to extend our effective range, but more importantly, to be a more ethical hunter.

Good huntin'