Youth deer rifle.

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  1. Gobears16

    Gobears16 Member

    Mar 27, 2019
    Just because it’s fun to debate... if he’s going to reload then go 6creed and send a 105 Berger with 1000lbs out to 800 with less recoil than the 6.5 with similar ballistics.... if he doesn’t reload the 6.5 creed would be second best ;)
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  2. Wolf76

    Wolf76 Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    308 with reduced recoil loads (125 sst or 130 ttsx). This cartridge will grow with him better than most. Not a fan of the 243.
    7-08 is just a necked down 308, so I don't really see the point(not opposed though).
    If you handload, i used a 120 accubond in my 308 @ 2100 fps for my daughter and it cleanly killed deer out to 150.
  3. KyCarl

    KyCarl Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

    May 10, 2017
    I like my 25-06 for deer! It's fast It's flat and it doesn't kick hard.
    But it whacks them good! I like a 100 Gr. Partition at 3300 fps.
  4. TX Badger

    TX Badger Well-Known Member

    Feb 29, 2016
    Exactly, its a mental exercise in some level, but may end up saving the OP some money too. ;-) I just don't see the downside of going a little bigger when you can load down for a couple years. If this kid is like me and my friends growing up, it won't be long before he wants something bigger. I really like the 25-06 and 6.5 creedmoor if he isn't reloading.
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  5. Louis3300

    Louis3300 Member

    Aug 20, 2006
    30-06 loaded with 150 gr. reduced loads. He will be able to use it on any animal he will want to hunt his entire life. 20181114_090218.jpg
    Ammo is cheap and easy to find. My 12 yr. old had no problem handling it.
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  6. jtbiv01

    jtbiv01 Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2007
    I couldn’t be more pleased with my Remington SPS youth in 7mm-08. Bought it for a light weight truck gun, but swapped the stock to a b&c and it shoots so good, I haven’t rebarreled it yet. Always an option though.
  7. thwatson2

    thwatson2 Member

    Nov 4, 2012
    Hard to beat a 308. Never shortage of ammo. I have a 7-08 I used for my children but limited ammo choices. I reload so was able to make a lot of choices, with 308 you can buy tons of choices. I would also recommend an adult rifle he can grow into. They are heavier and help reduce recoil and he can take it into adulthood
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  8. FatGuy

    FatGuy Member

    Apr 6, 2017
    I see I’m a little late to the party but I also recommend the 7mm-08. I just got my nephew one for Christmas, TC Compass that came with a Leupold VX Freedom already mounted on it. Just loaded up some of Sierras new 165gr Gamechanger bullets last night that I hope will be a good all around bullet for out here in Wyoming. I also own a 7mm-08 Ruger American and its been a tack driver shooting 120 gr Nosler Hunting BT and has taken a few mule deer and antelope.
  9. extremesolo

    extremesolo Member

    Aug 23, 2013
    CDNN still has several Marlin X7s in .243 available for $270 in a package gun with a scope. Even if you don't like the scope I still dont think there is a better feeling, more accurate gun in its class. You can not go wrong with that rifle for your grandson. 95 grain ballistic tips will do everything you will ever want it to from groundhogs to predators to deer with ease.
  10. Timnterra

    Timnterra Well-Known Member

    Oct 18, 2012
    12yr olds can be drastically different in size and stature. When I was 12 I was 5’9” and 140lbs but my buddy’s daughter is 12 she is 4’6” and 60lbs. Rifle fit and Recoil is the main concern you have. I’m building my kids a 6mm br to start out with. It’s like a miniature 243 win. My kids are still young, my oldest is 7, and she can’t hold a regular weight rifle off hand because she lacks the strength. The rifle has to be lighter than usual, which means more recoil, therefore I’m scaling back the cartridge. If your grandson is the size of a man it doesn’t really matter what you start him on but if not, you don’t want to induce a flinch by giving him a hard recoiling rifle.
  11. Steiger

    Steiger Member

    Jan 13, 2019
    I vote 7-08 if there is more opportunity other than deer. If it’s just deer the .243 is great. I have both and my wife loves shooting both.
  12. Calvin45

    Calvin45 Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2019
    That’s a very important question, “what rifles has he shot before?”. More important than height and weight or any of that. Some women I know can’t be much more than 120 pounds at not much more than 5 feet tall and have handled various 300 win mags over the last few years just fine. I have a friend who is 6’6 and not skinny by any stretch who received probably the hardest “scoping” I’ve ever seen, had no experience, everyone just assumed “he’s a big guy, he’ll be fine”. My first “big gun” was my dad’s 30-30 and I think it’s still a great gun to learn on. Not too bad recoil, the rifle isn’t long, heavy, or in any way awkward, teaches them to get as close as possible (I know this is a long range hunting forum but I trust we’d all agree that ethically we try to get close, and especially teach new hunters to do the same), and while you can put a scope on the lever guns I’m glad I learned how to shoot with iron before advancing to glass (and putting optics of any kind on a lever rifle is just sinful from an aesthetic perspective).

    Go old school and teach the kid to hunt and shoot with a marlin or Winchester 30-30. I suspect it’s what a ton of people here started with.
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  13. JASmith

    JASmith Active Member

    May 4, 2010
    Go with the Grendel.

    It has plenty of reach for hunting for all but the longest ranges. He can develop excellent shooting skills and habits.

    Then, as his growth and maturity develop, a second rifle dedicated to long range may be in order if truly long range hunting is part of the menu. He won't necessarily be confused by the change in platform because there is a significant difference in what one does to anchor game at 800 yards and beyond versus 300 yards and closer.
  14. hauntedbyelk

    hauntedbyelk New Member

    Nov 17, 2013
    My son did very well with a 7mm 08 as a youth rifle. He's 19 now and it still works great for him. I would recommend looking at the Tikka T3X and the Howa. Avoid the overly light pencil-barreled youth rifles. While easier to carry, they don't have enough weight to dampen the recoil.
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