Why the mad dash on reloading supplies?

[D.ID]

" I saw only 4 Ar's in a shop out of over 75 they had the last time I was in. They have raised the price over $700, I think you could call that greed by any standard and seems to be the American way any more every where. I for one will remember this if I buy another gun."..........................................................................................Can you blame him? If he sold at october market price scalpers would just clean him out anyway and most of those guns would be on auction at twice the price. If it aint the deal you want don't buy it but don't help the bureaucrats destroy you local supply network. Everyone running a business is trying to make money and if they may not be able to resupply right away, they need to make enough to carry them over if the market will bear it. Capitalism........It has it's ups and downs but it's benefits far outweigh it's inconveniences.

 

[hunterbob]

Yup , your 100% sidecarflip,
Everyone has got to get active. The NRA gives us better representation than our own Senators.

"Thou shalt not be a victim. Thou shalt not be a perpetrator. Above all, thou shalt not be a bystander."- Holocaust Museum, DC

 

[D.ID]

Yup , your 100% sidecarflip,
Everyone has got to get active. The NRA gives us better representation than our own Senators.

"Thou shalt not be a victim. Thou shalt not be a perpetrator. Above all, thou shalt not be a bystander."- Holocaust Museum, DC

+1...................

 

[SidecarFlip]

Far as the price increases for the 'to be banned if legislation passes' firearms, while I don't like it, just like everyone else. I look at it as strictly business. No gun dealer, manufacturer or for that matter individual seller is in it to be charitable. It's always 'charge what the market will bear'. Thats business.

If you can't afford it, don't buy it. It distills down to supply and demand, just like gasoline prices and every other tangible and intangible commodity.

I almost passed out when at a local gun show 2 weeks ago, a guy offered me 1700 bucks unsolicited for an AK in the parking lot that I paid 300 bucks for 6 years ago. Did I say 'Thats too much, it's only worth 300 bucks" Of course I didn't. That would be ludricrious on my part. I took the 17 Franklins and gave him what he wanted. He was happy to get it and I was happy to receive it. I did donate one of the Franklins to the NRA btw.

Is it panic buying? Maybe. Is it the uncertainty of pending Socialist assualts on the Constitution, maybe, but the bottom line is, if individuals aren't willing to pay an inflated price, then the price goes down. Until that time, the pricing stays inflated. Thats how economics work.

Besides, factoring in inflation and the devaluing dollar, I really didn't get 17 Franklins. I really got my 300 bucks back......

 

[CHARLIEDUECE65]

I don't want to sound like an ***, and I don't think I do, but this subject can be spun around till were all dizzy and blue in the face. The bottom line is greed and paranoia have caused the problems were having. I don't agree that it's ok for dealers to sell or price gouge AR's or assault looking weapons for double their normal price because of the possibility of banning them. There's plenty of AR manufactures in The USA....I'm sure they'd love to build more for their dealers. Shame on these people who are doing that! Maybe legislation needs to be enacted or passsed to stop or limit this type of business practice.

If the current argument to own these weapons is about our 2nd Amendment Rights. How are THE people supposed to afford these if greedy sales people are trying to get rich off the purposed ban on them. I don't get the ideology of it. Are THE people supposed to feel safe because the rich can defend us from the Gov't. Or is this really an everyone for themselves mentality?????? Because then the argument is pointless.

But then again what's with the big buying spree of these weapons. The American people didn't want or seem to need them before the mention of the ban and now they do.....odd?????? They obviously felt safe before the mention of the ban. lightbulb

Is this really going to come down to only the people who can afford firearms and ammunition can have them?????....(Sounds like the Gov't will win if this is the truth).

 

[D.ID]

You are right we could go around and around but might be better off to agree to disagree and thats cool with me but I have to offer one caution. The threat of government action causes the fear that is inconveniently effecting you now and your proposed solution is government action to limit how much a privately owned item can be sold for. BAD IDEA.....Ok, now we can agree to disagree.

 

[CHARLIEDUECE65]

+1 On agreeing to disagree! Do you think this is really fair to the American manufacture who this country really needs???

 

[SidecarFlip]

I don't want to sound like an ***, and I don't think I do, but this subject can be spun around till were all dizzy and blue in the face. The bottom line is greed and paranoia have caused the problems were having. I don't agree that it's ok for dealers to sell or price gouge AR's or assault looking weapons for double their normal price because of the possibility of banning them. There's plenty of AR manufactures in The USA....I'm sure they'd love to build more for their dealers. Shame on these people who are doing that! Maybe legislation needs to be enacted or passsed to stop or limit this type of business practice.

If the current argument to own these weapons is about our 2nd Amendment Rights. How are THE people supposed to afford these if greedy sales people are trying to get rich off the purposed ban on them. I don't get the ideology of it. Are THE people supposed to feel safe because the rich can defend us from the Gov't. Or is this really an everyone for themselves mentality?????? Because then the argument is pointless.

But then again what's with the big buying spree of these weapons. The American people didn't want or seem to need them before the mention of the ban and now they do.....odd?????? They obviously felt safe before the mention of the ban. lightbulb

Is this really going to come down to only the people who can afford firearms and ammunition can have them?????....(Sounds like the Gov't will win if this is the truth).

That is your perrogative, however, demand governs pricing. Thats how business works. Far as the idealogy of it is concerned, the only thing you need to comprehend is the current administrations agenda is to not only ban AR's and all those supposed assault weapons but in the end to take them all by whatever means is necessary.... and they will btw.

I said before and I'll say it again, chest thumping don't work. Get involved and do it pro-actively and diplomatically. Support the NRA. It's your best avenue for passive but firm resistance. There may be plenty of manufacturers but if this comes to pass, THERE WON'T BE ANY MANUFACTURERS. Just think how much an AR will cost, notwithstand the fact that owning one will make you a felon.. (or any firearm for that matter when no one makes them anymore, have you considered that?)

The he said that she said that you said has to go away. It's counter productive among other things....

Maybe I'm overstepping my bounds a bit, but if you feel that 'it's everyone for themselves', then you have no voice here.

 

[MachV]

Shame on these people who are doing that! Maybe legislation needs to be enacted or passsed to stop or limit this type of business practice.

Like it or not freedom comes with a cost! Legislation limits freedom.
I for one dont worry what an AR,ammo or reloading supplies cost right now=I'm free to plan ahead and have!!
My fight right now is not with those who share freedom its against those that would take it away!!
Just my red-neck view....Shame on them yes but its the way a free market works.

 

[SidecarFlip]

Shame on these people who are doing that! Maybe legislation needs to be enacted or passsed to stop or limit this type of business practice.

Like it or not freedom comes with a cost! Legislation limits freedom.
I for one dont worry what an AR,ammo or reloading supplies cost right now=I'm free to plan ahead and have!!
My fight right now is not with those who share freedom its against those that would take it away!!
Just my red-neck view....Shame on them yes but its the way a free market works.

I don't see that as a 'red neck' view. I see that as a patriotic , adult view.

What we have right now is way too much legislation, something I posted a long time ago. We need less government intervention and more citizens thinking for themselves and acting like the adults they are supposed to be, not whiney kids looking for mom and dad (the government) to take care of everything.

 

[diriel]

Any good reloader realizes you should stock up for about a year in advance. Going down and buying 1 Lb. of powder and 1 box of primers and 1 box of bullets etc.... that is just begging to get bit in the *** by a market hiccup. My mentor has enough on had to last several years...me I only have enough for a couple years or so if I am shooting regularly.

I will wait for things to get quiet again, then stock up on some more

 

[7stw]

Well, here's a little insult to injury! I went to a gunshow today in Marlborough Mass. The crowd was incredible, and some of the dealers, actually all of the dealers who HAD AR type rifles, had prices averaging $2200.00 or better. Note, these were not the custom ones, or fancy, just plain Jane models. And they were selling like hot cakes. Also, they were getting $ 500-600 bucks for cases of ammo in 223. I saw a ton of high capacity handgun sales, and when I bought some brass for my 25-06, 280, and 308, I had to show them my LTC, ( license to carry ), just to buy components. That's something new. *** is going on?

 

[diriel]

Personally.... I am planning a build for my 2 year old son... and will stock up **** heavy for him. After that... I will probably not shoot anywhere near as often as I really enjoy going out. Time to also stock up on .22LR Better to stock up and laugh later on than to not stock up an sob a river over not being able to get any components down the road.

 

[hunterbob]

Shame on these people who are doing that! Maybe legislation needs to be enacted or passsed to stop or limit this type of business practice.

Like it or not freedom comes with a cost! Legislation limits freedom.
I for one dont worry what an AR,ammo or reloading supplies cost right now=I'm free to plan ahead and have!!
My fight right now is not with those who share freedom its against those that would take it away!!
Just my red-neck view....Shame on them yes but its the way a free market works.

Hell No! No legislation! Thats why we are in this spot to begin with.
Root cause= obama
Why, because a lot of Americans believe they'll have to fight the zombies.