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J E Custom

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I think this is the right place to post this if not. please move.

As most know I like good instructive Videos, but This one needs to be viewed just to make everyone aware.

If you listen to it keep in mind that it is his opinion and no where the is there any real truth in it. he states that energy, shot placement, distance beyond 600 yards is to far for anyone or any cartridge. he also states that he has killed over 500 Elk in his 54 years of hunting. I'm not a math professor, but that adds up to 9.25 Elk per year. is that even possible or legal ? (This is also the guy that beats a bent barrel over a stump to straighten it).


I hope this video doesn't spoil your day, just thought everyone should hear what some think about us and our ability to shoot/hunt over 600 yards. :( :( :(

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Wow...
This must be the guy you guys are talking about..
"The Mouth Breather".......
Got to the point of be mentally asleep while watching...had to stop....
 

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I would agree that with the previous posters that he is stuck in his ideas or way of thinking.

I did go to his website to try and gain a better perspective on his background and training, which was somewhat impressive I guess. He has worked at some decent companies i.e. Speer and Burris while also completing a formal gunsmithing degree at Trinidad State Junior College. No idea if this was a good program or not 50 years ago. However, looking at his bio page, he sure loves to name drop. But by far is his obsession with Les Bowman. It looks like he hates it when people do not give credit to Les for coming up with 7mm Rem Mag. Which Craig Boddington did in an article with a September 2016 issue of G&A. (Which is why I guess he made is comment about finally agreeing with Craig in the video). I also am guessing that Les had some very strong opinions on long range hunting, which is were Randy's views come from.

But all in all he is entitled to his opinion as all we are. I would say though he is flawed if he is not willing to look a the new research/ technology that has come out in the past 50 years and accept that improvements have been made.

Moving on to my real question though (as it relates to the original post) some people do agree with Randy and his way of thinking but how many people is this really? In the video he said that only a small number of people think long range hunting is acceptable and he doesn't want those few people to ruin hunting because of it. Is this long range hunting community really the minority?
 

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Our comunity may not be a minority. But the people that do shoot game at long range is probably a for sure minority compared to the masses. I would wager that at least 75% of big game animals are shot at 200 yards or less. To me long range is 500 and up. I know someone is now saying to theirself 500 heck that's close. But I said to me 500 and over is long range in field conditions with hunting type rifles. So what percent of game is shot at long range? Depends on your definition of long range but I bet it is definitely in the minority. The advanced in our sport have been tremendous. High bc bullets. Better powder. Better barrels. Better optics for sure. And the almighty rangefinder that you can carry in your pocket. Ballistic programs on your phone. People were killing deer over 500 yards 30 yrs ago without any of these advancements. The real gunsmith is living Real far back in time. Probably still has a rotary telephone.
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Our comunity may not be a minority. But the people that do shoot game at long range is probably a for sure minority compared to the masses. I would wager that at least 75% of big game animals are shot at 200 yards or less. To me long range is 500 and up. I know someone is now saying to theirself 500 heck that's close. But I said to me 500 and over is long range in field conditions with hunting type rifles. So what percent of game is shot at long range? Depends on your definition of long range but I bet it is definitely in the minority. The advanced in our sport have been tremendous. High bc bullets. Better powder. Better barrels. Better optics for sure. And the almighty rangefinder that you can carry in your pocket. Ballistic programs on your phone. People were killing deer over 500 yards 30 yrs ago without any of these advancements. The real gunsmith is living Real far back in time. Probably still has a rotary telephone.
Shep
I agree 100%
 

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This fellow is old and set in his ways. A bit arrogant also. He's still doing things the way he's always done it and won't change. Probably a lot of us will be the same when we get 80 years old. It's almost comical to me. I don't agree with most of what he says in his videos. He's still on my side of the 2nd amendment fence so I won't run him in the ground too bad.
 
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