Remington and local dealers

[RockyMtnMT]

I was visiting with my local gun store this weekend about having our bullets on their shelf. During the conversation it came out that they will never deal with Remington in the future again. After many years as a Remington dealer, Remington told them that if they did not pay their order in full prior to shipment that they would cancel their order. And then they would have to wait up to 6 months for shipment. Any of you hear anything about Remington not wanting to work with local shops anymore?

Steve

 

[MudRunner2005]

One of my local shops has been saying something about this for the last few months. I hadn't heard anything about it from anyone else, so I figured maybe it was a personal thing between them and Remington.

 

[KoolBreeze]

I was told by one of my local stores that once the Remington products that they had in stock were gone, they would there be no more in their store. The guy said that Remington didn't want to do business with small dealers any longer and preferred to just do large volume sales to large volume dealers such as Wal-Mart and etc. Not sure what the details are, but that's what I was told.

 

[MudRunner2005]

I was told by one of my local stores that once the Remington products that they had in stock were gone, they would there be no more in their store. The guy said that Remington didn't want to do business with small dealers any longer and preferred to just do large volume sales to large volume dealers such as Wal-Mart and etc. Not sure what the details are, but that's what I was told.

I was given details of what both of yall have said, as their reasons.

 

[Trickymissfit]

when a corporation requires money upfront for a product purchase it normally is one of three things:

1. serious cash flow problems not allowing them to buy raw materials etc. I've ran into that issue several times in the past, and everytime the company was on the way out. Still sometimes they were upfront with their issues and I'd go to bat form. I got burnt once for $800K, and that was the end of that.

2. could also be the opposite, in that the purchaser is a little slow about paying their bills

3. they are gathering up every dollar and cent they can to counter an impending bankruptcy. Or worse yet closing the doors. Beware of this one as it happens all too often.
gary

 

[Waynzee]

Most of the gun dealers I deal with have stopped stocking Remington rifles due to other issues. I have not heard anything about money problems, however it would not surprise me if they were going under because of the quality of all their new rifles.

 

[KoolBreeze]

when a corporation requires money upfront for a product purchase it normally is one of three things:

1. serious cash flow problems not allowing them to buy raw materials etc. I've ran into that issue several times in the past, and everytime the company was on the way out. Still sometimes they were upfront with their issues and I'd go to bat form. I got burnt once for $800K, and that was the end of that.

2. could also be the opposite, in that the purchaser is a little slow about paying their bills

3. they are gathering up every dollar and cent they can to counter an impending bankruptcy. Or worse yet closing the doors. Beware of this one as it happens all too often.
gary

Hopefully it is reason #2 and it's just a few disgruntled stores they have stopped dealing with. Remington is an American icon in the firearms industry and hopefully they will be around for many generations to come. It also seems to me that most all firearms businesses should be thriving with sales as high as they are, in part due to the current political situation. Maybe they have soo much high volume business that they can afford to not cater to the little guy? Who knows.

Anyway, everything I said in my first post should be taken with a grain of salt, as I have no idea what the REAL story is. That is just what the clerk at the store told me while I was purchasing some Core-Lokt ammo.

 

[MudRunner2005]

Most of the gun dealers I deal with have stopped stocking Remington rifles due to other issues. I have not heard anything about money problems, however it would not surprise me if they were going under because of the quality of all their new rifles.

I'm sorry, but ALL of their new rifles? So you're saying that every new Remington that rolls off the line is a turd, none of them shoot, all the barrels and receivers are junk, all the stocks are garbage?

I expected nothing less than that comment...

I will admit, they are not to the same high standards of quality that they used to be, but they are not all bad.

 

[Waynzee]

MR, Thanks, Yep, I guess maybe 1 out of 200 or 250 new Rems. might be all right. A fella would have to look them over real close before you bought one for sure.

 

[scrmblr1982cj8]

I've purchased over a half dozen R700s over the past year. I can get one hole groups or cloverleafs at 100 yards with all of them. Granted, the ones I've purchased are Senderos and 5Rs, but I've been very satisfied with all of them. I'm satisfied with all of the R700s I've purchased over the years.

 

[7mmShooter]

While there are probably a bunch of newer ones out that perform lights out... The number of one's with reported issues has definitely been higher than I have ever seen personally

 

[sp6x6]

Interesting Steve,doubt the main 2local stores have a cash flow problem.They have been in business 100 yrs collectively.The larger of the 2 I was at a chamber event in my town that they handled and just fiished a large expansion here on that store.I see where part of this thread is going so...Know lots of happy Rem owners here.I bought a new not to many years ago varmint rifle,Rem 700.Would not eject brass,was spring and time to use.Was quoted 3 month wait to fix.So I took it to local smith and had tuned up on my dime.Not what I wanted in brand new rifle,stock looked cool but was plastic junk.I drilled it out and epoxied graphite arrows in stock and beddded action,so I could get it to shoot.Does do 1/2'' at times at 100,but lot messing around

 

[ksubuck]

I heard similar concerns from my LGS. They said they will likely drop Remington firearms from their lineup due to purchasing requirements that are not conducive to small organizations. Didn't get any real specifics as to what the problem was, but they were not happy.

 

[MudRunner2005]

While there are probably a bunch of newer ones out that perform lights out... The number of one's with reported issues has definitely been higher than I have ever seen personally

That's very simple... Because everybody loves to b**** on the Internet, more than they love to talk about the things that work like they're supposed to. And alot (not all) of those are hear-say and 2nd and 3rd-hand BS from someone's dad's sister's cousin's uncle's former roommate...

But of course I'm wrong, because if it's on the Internet or said by a big box store employee it HAS to be true...Right?