Norma BondStrike, TipStrike, and J&A Abram bullets
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I received a care package today from a very generous member here. Lots more bullets to add to my current database and that will be shared here in this forum. I've used and tested quite a few of these in the past, but that was before I was really documenting things like I am now, so it'll be really great having these samples to add.
Yes, these happen to all be lead core bullets, but I've done several mono bullets too and I'm wanting to add as many of them to the database as I can as well. I do believe I have a few more different mono samples coming in the future too, which will be great.
I'm truly grateful for all the support I get here! It's pretty amazing. I have another package coming tomorrow with more bullets as well.
I'll do my best to get these cut open, measured, photographed, and posted for everyone to see as soon as I can. Fall sports, hunting season fast approaching, and my day job will take most of my time, so bear with me.
Yes, these happen to all be lead core bullets, but I've done several mono bullets too and I'm wanting to add as many of them to the database as I can as well. I do believe I have a few more different mono samples coming in the future too, which will be great.
I'm truly grateful for all the support I get here! It's pretty amazing. I have another package coming tomorrow with more bullets as well.
I'll do my best to get these cut open, measured, photographed, and posted for everyone to see as soon as I can. Fall sports, hunting season fast approaching, and my day job will take most of my time, so bear with me.
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M1A1ABRAMS
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These guys are truly the best on here ! Looks like I wasted a little time going through my stash. If you need some seconds of certain bullets please post. lol
That's awesome! This gesture is a testament that there are very supportive folks here willing and able to lend a helping hand and help a fellow member in information sharing. In addition, contribute to the ongoing knowledge base. Keep up the excellent work. BRRRRRRRRRRRRT!
Ed
Agreed, and thank you!
Is that BRRRRRRRRRRRT stating to sound like a good nick name? or is it just me. JK Petey
I actually have TONS of them lol. I work with a bunch of military aircraft maintainers, so you can imagine how colorful they get with "Peter" in your last name lol. I learned to embrace it many years ago and it's comical to me now hearing new creative ones. BRRRRT would be pretty mild lol.
Gday Aaron
I was talking this thread as it was a few days since I'd seen it & was only a couple of posts , then the rest happened once I came back
No need to go back to that one 12 months ago all water under the bridge for me & a few things learnt since then anyway
That's good to here about the book & although I'm not a big book reader I look forward to the day it comes out
So here's a bit more information on how I found my way to monos & may be worth investigating a little on these yourself ( im not telling you what to do that's solely upto you ) as the following hands down is the best type/style of mono produced ( from the fur calculator) & why I don't believe you will wage a war on monos once you see the advancement in monos its a lot like from cast to c&c then to bonded it's all a learning process & the application we can now use this information to our benefit if we choose to or just keep shooting cast & all is good with me but please don't tell me they will outperform a proper design c&c pill in today's world if we use the c&c correctly
So stepping back a little
I was a frangible junkie & you wouldn't get through my thick skull that a mono would even compete with a c&c ( except a true solid ) & until I cleared my head after I was forced to use a mono that the light was switched on in my stubborn mindset & said to myself mmmm now if I could do this it may work & through the fur calculator over the years I went from well I won't do that again to mmm ok that worked ok but still resorted back to c&c really my game changer was the gpa & it's been a love hate relationship with monos ever since as I got one part right but suffered deficiency in other areas then raptors came along mmm we started getting closer to what I envisioned especially in 45&50 cal as those pills work really really good but my 375&30 cal were left wanting my final straw with them was destroying a raptors shank & while I never tried to replicate that again ( lesson learnt) I just couldn't bring myself to use them again so back to c&c & was still not happy there as I was seeing erratic results on some resistances & im not one to try & stay off bone or not take that hard quarter as if it presents I will take it out & realised later in life it actually happens in the field to more people than I realised wether animal behaviour or peoples traits/ capabilities
Impala bullets we're the other lightbulb moment & I'll go back to our ball & cube brief discussion a long time ago & if you would like to investigate impala bullets & put that into the mix with the gpa is what I saw as a potential candidate , just trying to find it was hard
Move to Today we have multiple companies producing a kinda hybrid of these pills & still variations between them all ( especially killing efficiency) & I hope you find that out on your journey but one thing that will help is starting from the basics & finding the velocity windows where preformance is not compromised or drops off considerably & you need to work this out for yourself as that's where your knowledge will come from ( it's really no different than the way c&c work on velocity windows & I think you'll get it & please I'm not trying to belittle ) or watch the guys who post results especially if they catch a shank ( study these very closely as part of your key is here to getting a idea of potential preformance issues but nothing better than first hand experience imo ) & with respect most companies are not what they promote
I think the afterburners will be good for you as they are fairly new & I was lucky to see marks first gen on paper & believe it's been refined since & it will again I'm pretty sure or you won't see them in the years to come but overall very little data on it so you'll have a clearer head & put together a picture overtime
Thanks for giving me & others a bit more background info on you not that it's my concern as I'm not going to hunt you down lol
Everyone should stick to their values/ morals & stand up for what they believe & the true merit of a person is their ability to challenge their self & question theories in a civil manner & im still learning , with guidance & stepping back I hold hope for myself & the majority of people , some are beyond help
On theories we need them , it raises the bar eventually it's how we go about fact or fiction thats the hard part & I just go pop things to see yes I'm lucky but some companies like badlands that I've just learnt are doing some good things with their testers on critters & it's not just popping critters , these guys I believe are doing that company proud & they will lift the bar on a already good product
I guess it's getting the correct people around us all to sort through the crap
Fair call on in ea others camps & guess time will tell around here if we can all get on
I truly hope so
I will say I'm not going to spend much time here as I believe I can help / learn on the forum I call home as it's way more civilised there yes we have disagreements but it's the end goal that's the picture we strive for imo that makes that place incredibly awesome but if it settles here I may spend a little more time
& time will tell on that
Thanks for taking the time reading & if I missed anything point it out or pull me up
Cheers Fordy
Well thanks I think also lol
I was talking this thread as it was a few days since I'd seen it & was only a couple of posts , then the rest happened once I came back
No need to go back to that one 12 months ago all water under the bridge for me & a few things learnt since then anyway
That's good to here about the book & although I'm not a big book reader I look forward to the day it comes out
So here's a bit more information on how I found my way to monos & may be worth investigating a little on these yourself ( im not telling you what to do that's solely upto you ) as the following hands down is the best type/style of mono produced ( from the fur calculator) & why I don't believe you will wage a war on monos once you see the advancement in monos its a lot like from cast to c&c then to bonded it's all a learning process & the application we can now use this information to our benefit if we choose to or just keep shooting cast & all is good with me but please don't tell me they will outperform a proper design c&c pill in today's world if we use the c&c correctly
So stepping back a little
I was a frangible junkie & you wouldn't get through my thick skull that a mono would even compete with a c&c ( except a true solid ) & until I cleared my head after I was forced to use a mono that the light was switched on in my stubborn mindset & said to myself mmmm now if I could do this it may work & through the fur calculator over the years I went from well I won't do that again to mmm ok that worked ok but still resorted back to c&c really my game changer was the gpa & it's been a love hate relationship with monos ever since as I got one part right but suffered deficiency in other areas then raptors came along mmm we started getting closer to what I envisioned especially in 45&50 cal as those pills work really really good but my 375&30 cal were left wanting my final straw with them was destroying a raptors shank & while I never tried to replicate that again ( lesson learnt) I just couldn't bring myself to use them again so back to c&c & was still not happy there as I was seeing erratic results on some resistances & im not one to try & stay off bone or not take that hard quarter as if it presents I will take it out & realised later in life it actually happens in the field to more people than I realised wether animal behaviour or peoples traits/ capabilities
Impala bullets we're the other lightbulb moment & I'll go back to our ball & cube brief discussion a long time ago & if you would like to investigate impala bullets & put that into the mix with the gpa is what I saw as a potential candidate , just trying to find it was hard
Move to Today we have multiple companies producing a kinda hybrid of these pills & still variations between them all ( especially killing efficiency) & I hope you find that out on your journey but one thing that will help is starting from the basics & finding the velocity windows where preformance is not compromised or drops off considerably & you need to work this out for yourself as that's where your knowledge will come from ( it's really no different than the way c&c work on velocity windows & I think you'll get it & please I'm not trying to belittle ) or watch the guys who post results especially if they catch a shank ( study these very closely as part of your key is here to getting a idea of potential preformance issues but nothing better than first hand experience imo ) & with respect most companies are not what they promote
I think the afterburners will be good for you as they are fairly new & I was lucky to see marks first gen on paper & believe it's been refined since & it will again I'm pretty sure or you won't see them in the years to come but overall very little data on it so you'll have a clearer head & put together a picture overtime
Thanks for giving me & others a bit more background info on you not that it's my concern as I'm not going to hunt you down lol
Everyone should stick to their values/ morals & stand up for what they believe & the true merit of a person is their ability to challenge their self & question theories in a civil manner & im still learning , with guidance & stepping back I hold hope for myself & the majority of people , some are beyond help
On theories we need them , it raises the bar eventually it's how we go about fact or fiction thats the hard part & I just go pop things to see yes I'm lucky but some companies like badlands that I've just learnt are doing some good things with their testers on critters & it's not just popping critters , these guys I believe are doing that company proud & they will lift the bar on a already good product
I guess it's getting the correct people around us all to sort through the crap
Fair call on in ea others camps & guess time will tell around here if we can all get on
I truly hope so
I will say I'm not going to spend much time here as I believe I can help / learn on the forum I call home as it's way more civilised there yes we have disagreements but it's the end goal that's the picture we strive for imo that makes that place incredibly awesome but if it settles here I may spend a little more time
& time will tell on that
Thanks for taking the time reading & if I missed anything point it out or pull me up
Cheers Fordy
The other package came today with a ton more bullets. I can't thank you guys enough for being so generous and supportive. I know some of these are better than gold right now lol.
These all will keep me really busy for a while, but I promise I'll get them done and posted just as soon as I can. That's the whole point. This isn't just for me. It's to be helpful for the whole community and just increase the knowledge base.
These all will keep me really busy for a while, but I promise I'll get them done and posted just as soon as I can. That's the whole point. This isn't just for me. It's to be helpful for the whole community and just increase the knowledge base.
Oh HELLYEAH! I know these supportive, good folks keep you going and do your best in information sharing, making your time and efforts worthwhile to fellow open-minded members willing and able to learn. Keep up the excellent work.
Ed
