New Bill Criminalizing Private Gun Sales

Gord0

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Somebody a whole lot better with words than I wrote this.

“Regarding the governments ability to impose "Reasonable Restraint" which has now become the mantra of our government. Supporters of the Amendment claim they have a constitutional or Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. Opponents counter that even if that were the case, the federal government was granted the general power to place restraints on the right. Both of these assertions are based on a misconception concerning the intent of the document known as the Bill of Rights.

When the Bill of Rights was submitted to the individual States for ratification, it was prefaced with a preamble. As stated in the preamble, the purpose of the Amendments was to prevent the federal government from “misconstruing or abusing its powers.” To accomplish this, “further declaratory and restrictive clauses” were being recommended. The Amendments, when adopted, did not create any so-called constitutional rights or grant the federal government any power over individual rights; they placed additional restraints and qualifications on the powers of the federal government concerning the rights enumerated in the Amendments.

If the Second Amendment is read through the preamble, we find it was incorporated into the Bill of Rights as a “declaratory and restrictive clause” to prevent the federal government from “misconstruing or abusing its power” to infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear arms.
Another way to understand the original intent of the Second Amendment is re-write it through the preamble:

“Because a well-regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State, the federal government is expressly denied the power to infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear Arms.”

The preamble and original intent of the Amendments has been suppressed by the institutions of government because it would expose their usurpation of power and perversion of Amendments contained in the Bill of Rights.

By advancing the myth that the Amendments grant the American people their individual rights, the federal government has been able to convert enumerated restraints and qualifications on its power into legislative, executive, judicial and administrative power over individual rights. The federal government claims it was granted the constitutional authority to determine the extent of the individual rights enumerated in the Amendments and/or impose “reasonable restraints” on those rights. This assertion is absurd. The federal government does not have the constitutional authority to ignore, circumvent, modify, negate or remove constitutional restraints placed on its power by the Amendments or convert them into a power over the individual right enumerated in the particular restraint.

A denial of power or an enumerated restraint on the exercise of power is not subject to interpretation or modification by the entity the restraint is being imposed upon. The restraints imposed by the Amendments, which were adopted 4 years after the Constitution was ratified, override the legislative, executive, judicial or administrative powers of the federal government. If this were not the case, then the restraints would be meaningless because the federal government could simply circumvent, modify or remove them. Why would the States have requested and adopted enumerated restraints on federal power, subsequent to their ratification of the Constitution, if the federal government possessed the authority to nullify them?

When the federal government infringes on one of the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights it is not violating anyone’s constitutional rights; it is violating the additional restraint or qualification placed on its power by the particular Amendment where the right is enumerated. The distinction between rights and restraints is critical. [The right is not given by the Federal Government. Our rights are given by God and are inalienable. Therefore, they can't be limited or taken away.]

As stated in the Declaration of Independence, the American people have unalienable rights that come from a higher source than government or a written document. By acknowledging that people have natural rights, which are bestowed by a creator, the Founders laid the foundation for the principle that government does not have the lawful authority to take away or infringe on those rights. This principle was incorporated into the preamble and structure of the Amendments to secure individual rights from government encroachment; that is why they were designed and imposed as restraints on the exercise of power.

If the individual rights of the people had been created by the Constitution or an amendment to the document, then they would cease to be unalienable because the right would depend on the existence of a document. If the document or a provision of the document disappeared, so would the right. The belief that individual rights were created by a written document has opened the door for the federal government to claim the power to define the extent of any right enumerated in an Amendment. This has transformed constitutional restraints placed on federal power into subjective determinations of individual rights by the institutions of government. By failing to understand the difference between amendments that create rights and amendments that impose restraints on government, the American people are watching their individual rights vanish as they are reduced to the status of privileges bestowed by government because the constitutional restraints placed on federal power are being replaced by government decree.

Opponents of the Second Amendment always try to diminish the right enumerated in the Amendment by asserting that rights are not absolute. This is just another straw man argument because the Amendment is about imposing a restraint of the powers of the federal government concerning a right: not granting a right or defining the extent of a right. In addition, a review of the Second Amendment shows that the restraint imposed by the Amendment does not contain any exceptions.”
~unknown author~
 

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I Totally agree with your views. I going to run for office. Start off small and move up the chain. Hopefully I can represent the views we are talking about so we don't loose anymore of them. I think we all need to get involved with in our communities. And then Mabe just Mabe, we can keep the leftist from infringing further on our God given rights guaranteed by our forefathers in our constitution. We need to get back to the basics. God family and country. It pretty bad when not only we can kill babies that are viable. And now here in Nevada we are trying to pass a law that people can commit suicide. What the hell is wrong with these people. No value what so ever for life.....

God Bless The United States of America!!!
What's wrong with people? The globalists have a depopulation agenda, called Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030. Look them up and do some research on those agendas. It's all about eugenics. Bill Gates, George Soros, Tom Steyer, Richard Branson, the Clintons, the Bush's, the entire EU and UN, and other billionaire a-holes like those people want to destroy about 15% of the world's population (roughly 1.5 BILLION people)...Trying to claim that we're causing "global warming". :rolleyes:

It is 100% a conspiracy, but it is NOT a theory... It's real. And here's the proof of them admitting how they're doing it (vaccines)... And people are laughing in the audience, which shows how stupid and brainwashed they are.

 

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Come on now Mud, it's not "global warming", it's "climate change"
Oh yes, of course, my apologies... I forgot they had to change the name......AGAIN.....To avoid looking like complete *******. First it was "Global Cooling" and the new ice age was going to be upon us in the 90's, and then it was "Global Warming" in the 2000's, and then when Al Gore was called out on it, they changed it once again to "Climate Change", as if the climates don't naturally change 4 f-ing times a year on their own......You know that whole Spring, Summer, Fall, & Winter stuff. :cool:

Sorry for lading it with all the sarcasm, but those global warming/climate change believers are the dumbest people on earth...Then again, they do typically vote Democrat, so that should tell you all you need to know. ;)
 

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I Totally agree with your views. I going to run for office. Start off small and move up the chain. Hopefully I can represent the views we are talking about so we don't loose anymore of them. I think we all need to get involved with in our communities. And then Mabe just Mabe, we can keep the leftist from infringing further on our God given rights guaranteed by our forefathers in our constitution. We need to get back to the basics. God family and country. It pretty bad when not only we can kill babies that are viable. And now here in Nevada we are trying to pass a law that people can commit suicide. What the hell is wrong with these people. No value what so ever for life.....

God Bless The United States of America!!!
What’s most unusual about that is the anti gun side wants to abolish the Second Amendment in the name of keeping kids safe, but they are totally fine with murdering them in the womb. Last I checked their abortion numbers have a higher body count than Hitler and Stalin.
 

Gord0

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Oh yes, of course, my apologies... I forgot they had to change the name......AGAIN.....To avoid looking like complete *******. First it was "Global Cooling" and the new ice age was going to be upon us in the 90's, and then it was "Global Warming" in the 2000's, and then when Al Gore was called out on it, they changed it once again to "Climate Change", as if the climates don't naturally change 4 f-ing times a year on their own......You know that whole Spring, Summer, Fall, & Winter stuff. :cool:

Sorry for lading it with all the sarcasm, but those global warming/climate change believers are the dumbest people on earth...Then again, they do typically vote Democrat, so that should tell you all you need to know. ;)
Our local news ran a story on climate change that I saw posted on facebook. I figured I would take a look at all the funny comments. First comment I see is THEIR CHIEF METEOROLOGIST trashing it. Even got the screen shots. :)
Screenshot_20190213-050100_Facebook.jpg Screenshot_20190213-050039_Facebook.jpg Screenshot_20190213-050048_Facebook.jpg
 

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another good write by Farnam


“A King, by disallowing Acts of this salutary nature, from being the father of his people, degenerated into a Tyrant and thus forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience.”

Patrick Henry, 1777

Yesterday’s issue of the Washington Post listed the Post’s pick of the top fifteen Democrat candidates for our 2020 presidential election. More are joining the race almost daily, but these fifteen represent “front-runners,” on the Democrat side, at least according to Post’s editors.

As one scrolls down through this list, a solitary fact immediately jumps out:

Every single one is venomously anti-gun and anti Second Amendment. Without exception, each caustically loathes private gun-ownership by US citizens, and each hates, with a rabid mania, American gun owners, both for what we believe, and for the individual freedom and liberty we so audaciously represent!

What will surely happen, absolutely without fail, when any one of these Democrat/Socialists/Marxists takes the White House, and when Democrat/Socialists/Marxists end-up in control of Congress?

Gun bans, magazine bans, ammunition bans, mandatory gun confiscation will be passed without delay, and promptly signed into federal law. Our Second Amendment will likely be repealed outright, and scrapped altogether.

Within four years, all privately-owned guns in the USA will be confiscated and destroyed. Hold-outs will be rounded-up and herded into “re-education programs” (gulags).

Will our Supreme Court protect us from this unconstitutional repugnance?

They seldom have in the past, and even when they bravely attempt to, liberal/Marxist lower-court judges, along with liberal/Marxist legislators, contemptuously ignore them, much as they’re doing right now with so-called “landmark” Heller, McDonald, and Caetano Decisions.

Our so-called “Supreme Court” may as well have remained silent!

In short, there is no protection from these Marxist-tyrant-wannabes!

Even now, Democrats are openly promoting voter-fraud and openly encouraging hoards of illegal immigrants, whose illegal votes they can control, to enter our Country illegally. Not surprisingly, they’re vigorously fighting all forms of border control.

In addition, they’re simultaneously destroying our Electoral College, so that their opponents’s votes will be completely irrelevant in future elections.

Hoards of illegals are being concentrated in rotting, squalorous metro areas (like SF, LA, Chicago) and maintained in continuously poverty and dependency.

In future elections, suburban and rural areas will be utterly unrepresented.

Squalor and poverty will thus become ecumenical, making organized resistance impossible, while Marxists and their commissars rule in unapologetic luxury, privilege, and splendor.

That is their stock MO, has been since 1917, and their take-over will be, as it always is, one-way!

In addition to eliminating our Second Amendment, Democrat/Marxists will immediately go to work on our First and Fourth!

“Hate speech” will be expanded to indict any who will dare to speak-out against them. All political “debate” will thus come to an end!

Their nationalized thugs will spread-out and kick-in doors without warning nor warrants, looking for “anti-revolutionary propaganda.”

And, they’ll oh-so sanctimoniously, cynically insist they’re doing it all “for the children,” much as they do now!

We students of American history know and understand “gun-control” was the spark that started the entire American Revolutionary War!

Those pitiable, embattled farmers who bravely, audaciously blocked the bridge at Lexington and Concord in 1775 are our magnificent ancestors!

They blocked that bridge, because British regular troops were coming to forcibly confiscate their privately-owned flintlock rifles (the “assault weapon” of the era), and they knew it!

How far we’ve come in 243 years!

King George III is back, banging on our very door.

He wants us to let him back in.

In fact, he is insisting on it!

/John
 

Riflehunter1776

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Oh yes, of course, my apologies... I forgot they had to change the name......AGAIN.....To avoid looking like complete *******. First it was "Global Cooling" and the new ice age was going to be upon us in the 90's, and then it was "Global Warming" in the 2000's, and then when Al Gore was called out on it, they changed it once again to "Climate Change", as if the climates don't naturally change 4 f-ing times a year on their own......You know that whole Spring, Summer, Fall, & Winter stuff. :cool:

Sorry for lading it with all the sarcasm, but those global warming/climate change believers are the dumbest people on earth...Then again, they do typically vote Democrat, so that should tell you all you need to know. ;)
And the temps are apparently still not as high as they were when the Norse lived in Greenland during the Medieval Warm Period (AD 950-1250), before they abandoned it during the Little Ice Age(AD 1400-1875). So if scientists are using the Little Ice Age as a datum point (which they are, deliberately, in order to make their claims more shocking), of course temps are higher now that we are in the next cycle's warm period.
 

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