Neck Turning Pilots...Interchangeable?

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Doublezranch, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. Doublezranch

    Doublezranch Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    845
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    I'm looking to clean up the necks on a new wildcat and I've run into a small snag. My K&M neck turner works awesome, however they only make a 375 pilot for their large hand tuner (ie..50 bmg). Does anyone know if RCBS or Forester make a steel pilot that will fit in the K&M standard neck turner?

    Thank you...

    Jayson
     
  2. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,344
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2004

    I fought this for years and made many of my own pilots to fit the brass better before turning.

    Once I bought the Sinclair neck turner with the expander mandrels that size the inside of the necks
    to fit the proper turning mandrel I no longer make or use poor fitting mandrels.

    I have one expander mandrel for each caliber and one turning for each.

    I know it requires a change in neck turners but is the cost is not an issue it is worth looking into.

    http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloadi...urning-tool-kit-w-storage-case-prod38787.aspx

    Just a thought

    J E CUSTOM
     
  3. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,354
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2005
    You want to know the diameter of the shafts of the RCBS and Forster outside neck turning pilots, correct? So you can compare them to the shaft diameter of the K&M neck turning pilots?

    Perhaps measure and post your K&M shaft diameter and request that folk with the RCBS, Sinclair, and Forster tools post the diameter of their pilot shafts. Also, I'm pretty sure RCBS and Forster tech reps would provide the ODs of their pilots if you called and asked to speak to a technical rep.

    I too use a K&M tool, so I can't provide the diameters off the other manufacturer's pilots.
     
  4. Doublezranch

    Doublezranch Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    845
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Alright Forester, Sinclair, RCBS boys with turners. The OD of my K&M pilot is .199. How does this compare to yours? Even if it's close I'd give it a whirl. I do like Jerry's idea of the Sinclair but mine works so good. Hopefully I can figure something out.
     
  5. TOM H

    TOM H Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,143
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2001
    The OD of the K&M pilot that fits into the neck turner is .343" and all three I have are the same.

    https://www.kmshooting.com/catalog/pilots/carbide-cutting-pilot_1388695985.html
     
  6. Doublezranch

    Doublezranch Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    845
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Alright...I've seemed to confuse the hell out of myself. I asked my father to measure the OD of the pilot and that's the number he gave. I knew he was confused when I asked him to do that for me. Also, I have the steel pilots not the carbide ones. I have the whole set of expanding irons and pilots. The only issue is that they only go to 338 caliber. I have a email into K&M to ask what their suggestion is. I did see on sniper-hide that someone else had the same problem as myself. They told him he needed the larger Turner...the one for the 50 bmg. Apparently that Turner will accommodate the 375 pilot. I want to hear that from K&M directly.

    Tom, do you have a 375 pilot your using from K&M? And if so, did you need the larger neck Turner to do so?
     
  7. barefooter56

    barefooter56 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    910
    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    DoubleZranch,
    PMA tools neck turning & expander mandrels WILL interchange with the Sinclair mandrels and vise versa. Most reloading tool companies like to keep their tools and accessories proprietary. However there are exceptions like accessories for case prep centers and trim pilots in some cases. Just an FYI for you guys.
     
  8. TOM H

    TOM H Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,143
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2001
    No, they only go to 338 as you mentioned. Forester,Sinclair,RCBS makes pilots for .375 and more than likely they be too small or large to fit the K&M. I ran into same problem for my 35 WhelenAI so I puchased one from Sinclair for Larger Caliber neck turner and I got expander/die also.
     
  9. Doublezranch

    Doublezranch Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    845
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Dang...I was worried about that. Thanks for your insight. I appreciate all of you....very much.

    Jayson