WWP2012
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Thanks, Just to be sure, I should probably should just throw my stuff in a dumpster before I hurt myself.
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Thanks, Just to be sure, I should probably should just throw my stuff in a dumpster before I hurt myself.
Mikecr
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Not in a dumpster, but behind a 'reloading 101' type book, to reset the basics in your mind.
You gotta know this looks sloppy on your part
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WWP2012
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Do you know how your criticism makes you look?
Rhett Crider
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Just a thought as I have never fire formed but Grafs has PRVI bulk bullets that are cheap so you don't waste your good stuff. Also maybe use a powder that is not as desirable for your fire form to conserve your good stuff. I'm sure there are some more experienced reloaders that can guide you on this. Just a thought that came to mind.
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Prvi Partizan Bullet 30cal (.308) 175gr HPBT Match 50 per bag - Graf & Sons
Prvi Partizan was founded in 1928 and today produces over 350 types of rifle, pistol , revolver and small arms ammunition. Prvi Partizan bulk bullets feature a lead core and copper jacket. Imported from Serbia. Bulk packed. This is not loaded ammunition.
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best brass fire forming method?
What have you guys found to be the best way to fire form brass? Is there any difference in the technique that you would use in fire forming in a barrel that is new vs. one already broken in? I would appreciate any recommendations on powder, wads (bullets), etc.. I have several large case rifles...
WWP2012
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Just a thought as I have never fire formed but Grafs has PRVI bulk bullets that are cheap so you don't waste your good stuff. Also maybe use a powder that is not as desirable for your fire form to conserve your good stuff. I'm sure there are some more experienced reloaders that can guide you on this. Just a thought that came to mind.
Prvi Partizan Bullet 30cal (.308) 175gr HPBT Match 50 per bag - Graf & Sons
Prvi Partizan was founded in 1928 and today produces over 350 types of rifle, pistol , revolver and small arms ammunition. Prvi Partizan bulk bullets feature a lead core and copper jacket. Imported from Serbia. Bulk packed. This is not loaded ammunition.
Thanks, I ended up grabbing those 180g partitions that were on here. With those and what I already had I can work on some load development velocities at least.
Stevenstl86
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The brass isn't toast but may have lost a few reloads. To get the cases back you don't have to run a full powder charge but you can back off quite a bit. Find some cheap 30 cal bullets and shoot those. I would try 5 or so and measure the case.
Do you know your head space on your chamber? I have always checked new brass in Sheridan case gauges and if it fits I load and shoot.
Do you know your head space on your chamber? I have always checked new brass in Sheridan case gauges and if it fits I load and shoot.
I can't understand how it didn't collapse the shoulder and make them impossible to chamber! ALOT seems like an understatement,
WWP2012
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I always set them where it just barely cams, and never had a issue. I resized everything and noticed a issue on 2 necks. The brass had been dropped hard enough in shipping to blow out the bottom of the plastic case.
To correct it, I did my normal neck turning steps a few weeks later and resized them again afterwards to get the neck tension uniform.
Where I think I screwed up was I switched the shell holders in between because one didn't fit in my hand primer well. I never readjusted the die. The shell holders are different manufacturers as two of the same weren't available at the time. I never thought it would make that much of a difference and just went about my routine.
They resized harder and I just wrote it off as the previous damage not realizing it was the difference in shell holders. So it got to -.009 in a two step process. I'm picking up the extra -.001 in the chamber depth after a test fire.
Lesson learned, I've been at this a while and thru several rifles. Never had this issue even with loading several wildcats.
WWP2012
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Thanks most everyone for the advice, glad to see there are mixed opinions the same as mine. I ordered a 8mm expander and will add the false shoulder to them. Then I can do all my velocity ladder work with a couple different bullets to get them all FF. Then jump into accuracy afterwards.
Mike Matteson
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Hard lesson to learn. One thing to look at, is what powder load are you using? Because you'll may need to reduce that load somewhat, because of additional chamber pressure. With new cases you would have had that problem anyway to start with. There two men that I read and have gotten info from. GLTaylor and Mikecr on reloading points.
WWP2012
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I have some RL22 that I don't need anymore. I saw RL23 had published load data so I just dropped back a few grains of min and used that to test fire it.
I have had the same problem with the same amount of extra head space and most all of them fired with no case stretching problems, some required a second FP hit to go off.
