Berger 156 EOL 6.5 fail?

[coop2564]

Barbour creek showing bullet fail...what you think? Long range seems iffy.

More fails

 

[xsn10s]

I don't know their parameters for the fail. A link to the fail report would probably be helpful. I will say any bullet can fail if used outside of it's operating parameters.

 

[coop2564]

I don't know their parameters for the fail. A link to the fail report would probably be helpful. I will say any bullet can fail if used outside of it's operating parameters.

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[BlackTail30]

 

[xsn10s]

I'll refer to R Furman's big horned sheep video.

 

[RockyMtnUT]

180 Berger at 80yards. Its not just a 156 thing.
I found this one just under elk hide after broadside shot/quartering away. I shot this thing 2x. First with a fail & second it worked as should.

Now, as with anything there are variables. I get it.
Tips were not "plugged". So why the failure? Note: In my book I shouldn't have to use a dental pic to play. I only keep those with me for my Idaho friends. I still shoot Bergers at certain game and to foul my barrels. But when I head to Alaska next season I will not be using them. Plenty of capable Bullets out there.
This not a first time incident.
I know if the kool-aid ain't right.



Or just use the nosler in last picture? Impact on elk at over 3000fps 1 and done.

 

[MagnumManiac]

I have to say I moved away from Berger EOL bullets some time ago due to the above inconsistencies.
Although I didn't lose an animal, sheer luck mind you, the performance in both 30 and 33 cals was very disappointing, the tumbling and veering off course was the biggest issue in my experience beyond around 800yrds.
Anyway, not ALL bullets from the same manufacturer are made equal.

Cheers.

 

[vancewalker007]

You guys should stop buying them so I can get some more 7mm 180 VLD Hunting bullets. You see the videos with your own eyes they're crap, so I expect to see some bullets in stock soon, hunting season will be here soon.

 

[8andbait]

The worst bergers are the 215 hybrid and the 7mm 175 elite hunter.
Please stop buying them and ship all of them to me for proper disposal.

 

[8andbait]

But seriously, I've shot and witnessed hundreds of animals being shot with bergers from a 130 vld out of a 6.5 saum at 30 yards to 215's at 1000ish yards and everything in between.
I've only witnessed one exception to excellent performance. That was a 2020 WY antelope doe with a 156 out of my 6.5 PRC.
Hit her the first time at 592 and she ran off then stopped, thinking I missed, I shot again and no reaction from her.
Then she laid down and I shot her again, this time she flinched but head was still up so I hit her again.
Four shots total thinking maybe two hits…I get up there and start quartering and I find 4 entrance holes. Upon further inspection it seems the first two went straight through her without opening, much like a field point.
I started thinking maybe I forgot to check those tips (which I always do with a dental pick).
When I got home I took out the remainder of the rounds and about 1/3 of the tips were clogged including the next two I would have shot at animals.
I don't consider this a berger failure because I know better and I failed to check the tips.
Since then I've killed a few more animals with the 156 at 2915 muzzle velocity out of my 6.5 PRC including a bull elk at 885 last fall that died quickly after one shot which completely destroyed the heart and lungs.
So, if you are uncomfortable using them…don't. If you do use them please check the hollow point and kill effectively.

 

[RockyMtnUT]

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[RockyMtnUT]

But seriously, I've shot and witnessed hundreds of animals being shot with bergers from a 130 vld out of a 6.5 saum at 30 yards to 215's at 1000ish yards and everything in between.
I've only witnessed one exception to excellent performance. That was a 2020 WY antelope doe with a 156 out of my 6.5 PRC.
Hit her the first time at 592 and she ran off then stopped, thinking I missed, I shot again and no reaction from her.
Then she laid down and I shot her again, this time she flinched but head was still up so I hit her again.
Four shots total thinking maybe two hits…I get up there and start quartering and I find 4 entrance holes. Upon further inspection it seems the first two went straight through her without opening, much like a field point.
I started thinking maybe I forgot to check those tips (which I always do with a dental pick).
When I got home I took out the remainder of the rounds and about 1/3 of the tips were clogged including the next two I would have shot at animals.
I don't consider this a berger failure because I know better and I failed to check the tips.
Since then I've killed a few more animals with the 156 at 2915 muzzle velocity out of my 6.5 PRC including a bull elk at 885 last fall that died quickly after one shot which completely destroyed the heart and lungs.
So, if you are uncomfortable using them…don't. If you do use them please check the hollow point and kill effectively.

Good story bro.
I just opened my emergency boxes and to my surprise they are now packed different?Thats great news now I can fix bullets that shouldn't need it.
Also they just added bullet tip cleaners to their website if interested?

 

[L.Sherm]

How do explain the elk above? Don't worry I've gave them away.
My pellet gun can produce more damage

Good story bro

 

[Greyfox]

Wondering if the cartridges/tips in the magazine are hitting the interior during recoil. It doesn't take much to deform the tips of the Berger's. I always check my magazine rounds after shooting.