How come when somebody posts something here that is different then than using NSX scopes, Berger Bullets, 338 Edge, and etc, they get crucified on this board?
I like Barnes Bullets. They shoot well. Enough Said.
To both Berger people who posted here. I disagree with both of you and your hype.
I am in a big rush right now but will be back to identify some of your wrong assumptions.
I have killed will over 200 deer and yes I have had many that reacted from shock to the nerves, muscle reflex etc. like turning a complete back flip etc. but I know that these deer mentioned above WERE KNOCKED DOWN by bullet impact force.
How come when somebody posts something here that is different then than using NSX scopes, Berger Bullets, 338 Edge, and etc, they get crucified on this board?
I like Barnes Bullets. They shoot well. Enough Said.
And that's fine. We're not engaged in this discussion to talk people out of shooting Barnes bullets. We're engaged in this discussion because those at Barnes were not happy with "Enough Said". They had to make up more stuff (misleading and unsupportable stuff) about how their bullets are better than all others. The reaction that they were 'crucified' here is simply the customer feedback mechanism which works the same way every time a product falls short of it's representation.I like Barnes Bullets. They shoot well. Enough Said.
To both Berger people who posted here. I disagree with both of you and your hype. The Barnes article is well written and for the most part accurate. I do not feel your articles or responses are either. I do not believe either of you have nearly the experience in the hunting game as needed. Barnes makes a hunting bullet and as good a one as there is. Berger makes target bullets. That is the difference. Hunters need to hunt with Barnes bullets and shoot targets with Bergers. The Berger philosophy of trying to market there bullets as hunting bullets is tremendously flawed. Berger is trying to tap into a hunting market their bullets do not belong in until they began producing quality hunting bullets.
I am in a big rush right now but will be back to identify some of your wrong assumptions.
How come when somebody posts something here that is different then than using NSX scopes, Berger Bullets, 338 Edge, and etc, they get crucified on this board?
I like Barnes Bullets. They shoot well. Enough Said.
How come when somebody posts something here that is different then than using NSX scopes, Berger Bullets, 338 Edge, and etc, they get crucified on this board?
I like Barnes Bullets. They shoot well. Enough Said.
Not convincing.
Like I said, shoot some 200 lb sandbags and tell me how acrobatic the bag is in response to your 25-06 bullet impacts. Better yet, take one of your dead deer after rigor mortis sets in - stand it on its feet and blast away. The results will be truly boring. If you don't want to sacrifice a deer for the cause of science, send a PM to 'royinidaho' and ask him how far his dead pig jumped into the air from bullet impacts from his 270 Allen Magnum, which generates a lot more energy than your 25-06.
Hear are Roy's threads covering the bullet tests he performed on a culled porker:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/bullet-performance-test-chapter-3-winner-32566/
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/bullet-terminal-performance-test-want-31872/
You could take some video, but it wouldn't be any more impressive than still photos. Take the nerves/muscles away and so go the acrobatics.
Hey...you forgot Chapter 2 with the overall results and the video....
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/bullet-performance-text-video-chapter-2-a-32565/
Hmmm... I dont think you've read these threads very well?
No one is being crucified for not using any particular bullet. I've already said that I'm a fan of controlled expansion bullets and no one is crucifying me.
What IS happening is that the authors of these Barnes articles are be called on the carpet for basically false information. Do you get it???? Has nothing to do with bullet preference. My bullet preferences are the Nosler E-Tips and ABs. If you like Barnes bullets, that's great! If IMO, Barnes made a good a bullet as the E-Tips and AB's, I would use them as well no matter what who wrote what article.
Dont get defensive because your're a Barnes fan... it's not at all about that.
-MR