There is no way your numbers for the 270 wsm are correct .
So the 277 Fury is supposed to launch a 140 grain low bc bullet at 3000 fps from a 16" barrel right?Now something game changing is the 277 Furry. The ballistics performance is ridiculous. It makes sense as a mountain packing riffle, small, light and powerful. Unfortunately pushing 80,000 psi, I would think your barrel life would be fairly limited. I looked at Speacial cases made out of stronger alloy brass and $4.95 per case, couple that with limited barrel life and it is pretty expensive to shoot. Glad to see more people entering the long and heavy .277 market though.
I agree that it is mostly a bunch marketing hype to sell more guns and ammo. You don't have to be better, just newer! Post some articles and videos of guys screaming how incredible the cartridge/rifle/scope is and people will buy it. Look at the "Short Magnum" craze of a few years ago; not many survivors left today. Different! or New! or Limited Supply! marketing works across all retail sectors. Look at the adds pushing coffees, doughnuts, and fast food sandwiches; the method works. With the new machining and manufacturing technologies the manufactures don't have to sell 5000 units to be successful. They are probably even at 500 and making good profits by 1000 units sold. If demand keeps steady, they manufacture another run to their production target. Repeat as often as required. If demand drops off, they shelve the product for something different, newer, or limited supply again. There seem to be plenty of willing buyers in the marketplace.So, how about how poor the timing is that they 277 sig fury and the 6.8 western are launched right on top of each other, and both of them fill a hole that didn't really exist. I think some of you nailed it, they are just praying to be the next 6.5cm. They are hoping for the equivalent of "going viral" in today's nonsensical world of cartridge marketing. The 6.5 caliber is exhausted for mass marketing, so they had to move on to thr next probable diameter opportunity.
Next year 4 companies will make .25 cartridges with awesome marketing names, and that is the culture we have now..
Yep its totall crapOne thing that I find irritating (and it’s nothing new either) is the apples to potatoes spin they put on these things. This 6.8 w is being advertised to retain more energy than a 7mm rem mag. No way that’s true comparing the highest bc projectiles in both cartridges.
and Ron Spomer endorsing it means nothing to me, if anything it’s against it. He’s a great hunter and shooter no doubt but reading a few articles and watching a few videos about anything ballistic and technical and I know what I need to know. Saw a YouTube video by him explaining why the 6.5 creedmoor beats the .300 win mag at 1000 yards, proceeding to compare the ballistics of the 143 eldx with the 180 COR-lokt.
I have used a 260 REM [worst cartridge name ever] since before anyone conceived of the 6.5 CR. The 260 REM is great for the shooting I do. However the 6.5 CR is a decent package and I might even buy one some day. But there are now many more and better .264 bullet choices than when I first started with the 260 REM.But the 6.5 Creedmoor works right? If it didn't work with all the hype, it would be a do noting cartridge, right?
The 6.8 Western is a smart idea, better than putting a fast twist barrel on a 270 Win, the 30-06 case does has limitations even when AI'd.
Good idea at the wrong time.
Lots of people in the marketplace are not interested in customization of throats, rate of twist, hand loading, or other specialties. They are willing to pay for off the shelf accuracy and in reality they can get it. As much as they care to spend. The are buying the short cut to the end result. They probably won't shoot 4 boxes of ammo in a year because they don't have to. They bought what they wanted...As I see it the only point of Winchester and Browning developing this was so there could be a production rifle produced that mimicked what others have been building custom 270 wsm’s throated long for years now. If you want a production rifle that’s less expensive this cartridge would be the way to go. But compared to having your barrel throated for the heavies I don’t see another advantage. 6,8 western has a shorter shoulder and maybe some taper taken out of the 270 wsm parent case.