Let’s not confuse innovation and knowledge. When barrels were first rifled that was innovation. When bullet shape, weight, velocity and twist were optimized that was knowledge brought about by technology that let us see exactly what a bullet was doing in flightso dead is dead then, so lets all use flintlock because dead is dead. its is also like saying that back in the 1800s when the self contained cartridge was developed and everybody went to it that no innovation occurred. there is a lot here that is new 3 new bullets to start that we didn't have. twist rates not before available to the everyday shooter/hunter. factory ammo offerings for longrange with the accuracy to match. innovation doesn't have to be from the ditch to the moon to be a solid step up
Boom. Me too.Just another implement using rapidly expanding gasses, generating pressures from burning nitrocellulose, to launch a projectile thru a confined system that imparts spinning to achieve gyroscopic stability.
Progressive steps could be to rail guns then to a stream of photons.
Until that happens this geek will be content with a 7.7 twist .22-.250 and pointy 75 grain bullets. My last rodent was just under 400 yards.
I think its a pandering compromise and will not stand the test of time. 6.5 prc and this 6.8 western are just slightly smaller cases then a 270 wsm designed to shoot high bc bullets. And am all for efficiency and dift over drop. But going to a smaller case in the 6.8 western and a heavier bullets makes the 6.8 western the 6.5 cm/6.5 prc of hunting rounds. Good/better LR performance but not real flat shooting.I’d like to know what everyone’s thoughts are on the new 6.8 Western. I know it’s a brand new but it like a very promising cartridge.
Isn't the barrel twist rate for the 270 wsm 1-in-10 just like the 270 win? So despite it's flatter trajectory you are still limited in the choice of bullet weights and BC's available to it because 1-in-10 simply won't stabilize anything much above 160 grains for the .277 diameter bullet.I think its a pandering compromise and will not stand the test of time. 6.5 prc and this 6.8 western are just slightly smaller cases then a 270 wsm designed to shoot high bc bullets. And am all for efficiency and dift over drop. But going to a smaller case in the 6.8 western and a heavier bullets makes the 6.8 western the 6.5 cm/6.5 prc of hunting rounds. Good/better LR performance but not real flat shooting.
What I like about the 270 wsm is its flat shooting with a 130 gr. 1.9 mils at 485 yards, compared to my 300 wm with a 200 gr and my 7mm mag with a 162 gr which are both at 2.5 mils. And the 270 wsm has a pbz of 250 yards and carries 1224 #'s of energy to 1000 yards, in elk county at 7500 ft of altitude, 40 degrees, 23.0 baro, 25% RH starting at mild 3089 fps.
Yes the 6.8 western will preform better at longer ranges but your giving up the flatness at ranges most game is shot at.
The 270 wsm is still a better choice for hunting, as most game is taken at distances far below were the 6.8 western will out preform it.
Winchester should have came out with a 6.5 wsm or 6.5 western 7.5T. A 150-160 gr 6.5 would have been a better choice for the case. Or a 25 western designed around a .65 g1 bc bullet.