Floundertrap
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I built a 270wsm on a magnum action to run 170gr EOLs, the short action won't run that round at optimum seating depth.
Everybody loves the WSM, so why are brass companies ignoring it?
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Floundertrap
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If the brass wasn't $2-3 each, not to mention loaded ammo, you'd see a lot more wsm builds/purchases. Not disagreeing with you, but I think the price/availability is driving the market more than consumer interest. If mfgs think their sales are limited by popularity over price and limited availability, they're fooling themselves.
Having 3 WSMs and a SAUM wildcat that uses WSM brass, I see the benefit, even shooting long-range f-class. But most of my guns are custom and I own the reamers, the juice is still worth the squeeze for me.
Ckleeves
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IMO ADG could run 300 wsm and 7 saum pretty heavy and hardly keep up with the demand. Both sell out crazy fast. At this point the market is so saturated with PRC brass it's on sale at a bunch of places.
shinbone
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AZShooter and Ryan,
Those are great examples of how well the .300WSM shoots. Which just goes to show that its lack of general acceptance by the long range crowd is all the more baffling.
Perhaps the problem is that when people think ".300WSM," they automatically think "short action," which hampers shooting the long heavy bullets favored by the long range people, and thus they quickly move on to other cartridges for consideration.
Also, maybe, once there is a lag in a cartridge's popularity, manufacturers scale back brass production, then people start to feel like brass is hard to find, and so people shy away from the cartridge which further reduces demand, which then reduces production even more, and the negative-feedback-loop death-spiral continues downward.
I have no special knowledge, I am just throwing out possibilities.
Those are great examples of how well the .300WSM shoots. Which just goes to show that its lack of general acceptance by the long range crowd is all the more baffling.
Perhaps the problem is that when people think ".300WSM," they automatically think "short action," which hampers shooting the long heavy bullets favored by the long range people, and thus they quickly move on to other cartridges for consideration.
Also, maybe, once there is a lag in a cartridge's popularity, manufacturers scale back brass production, then people start to feel like brass is hard to find, and so people shy away from the cartridge which further reduces demand, which then reduces production even more, and the negative-feedback-loop death-spiral continues downward.
I have no special knowledge, I am just throwing out possibilities.
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Louisiana Reloader
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I second that--ADG is great brass; similar in weight to Lapua. I lucked up and found a good stock of Lapua brass for my 6.5 PRC and bought 500 pcs (my barrel will probably be shot out by then; however I see me buying another 6.5 PRC when that happens). But, had ADG been available I would have bought some. Thanks
Said this before, Hornady is a marketing machine as evidenced by 6ARC, 65CM (and spinoffs), 65PRC, 7PRC, and 300PRC.
I have two .300 WSM and lucky enough to have acquired enough brass for the life of the barrels.
comfisherman
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They were popular enough half a dozen major action companies developed a medium length action for them.
While not the first short magnum, they were certainly popular enough that remington was inspired to launch the saum line to compete. Eventually even ruger jumped in with the rcm line. Go back 15 to 20 years and they were going like wild fire. Honestly the sst and now prc are corrections to issues with the wsm line, but fundamentally keeping the overall idea.
It's probably a valid point that some of the saum and rcm rounds were attempts to get around the user rights issues. Certainly was cited as much back a decade or more ago. When the ip ran its course there certainly was a bloom in available components. It's hard to judge where the market actually is for premium wsm brass, the last 3 years have been such chaos with external factors. It's going to be a while before we see each products standalone merit.
Floundertrap
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The WSM has been accepted and embraced by the long range crowd, several on the line at any big match. 300wsm being most popular, I shoot a necked down 7-300wsm, primarily.
300 wsm sucks, please nobody build one. No. Components exist for it anyhere. Build something else. Here's my horrible 300 wsm
I've got 2 WSMs. A 300 and a 7. 300 brass is ADG for sure but the 7 has limited options. Fortunately Hornady now makes 7WSM brass and I've had very good luck with it so far. I did spend a good amount of time prepping it to a higher quality. Uniformed the flash holes, anealed all of it, worked necks and trimmed. Brass is holding up very well and I'm very happy with it so far. Also it doesn't break the bank account. Winchester has started a new run of 7 WSM brass as well. 7 Brass can be challenging but it's not as bad as some make it out to be, especially if this is a hunting rig! Good luck!
What bottom metal is that?
SSG Graybush
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I emailed Peterson, was told 270 and 300 wsm brass are in the works but no availability date yet.
The 200.20x Berger really shines in the 300WSM short action. One of the reasons they designed this bullet was specifically for the 30 cal shortys.
