Best hunting scope ever?

I can't believe you taught this old dog a new trick.
But how to get the pics from my phone to My Pictures in my computer?
By the way this is my granddaughter
 

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Old rooster said:
I can't believe you taught this old dog a new trick.
But how to get the pics from my phone to My Pictures in my computer?
By the way this is my granddaughter
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Computer....take your charging cord...plug the fat end into your computer...the other into your phone...have the computer on first and then plug in the phone...follow the prompts...it may ask you to download a program or might just fire up and ask you to sync your photos....just ask you tube...it will walk you thru
 
squawberryman said:
Why the ban?
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NO Electronic's on a Bow or Rifle, are allowed, in Idaho.
NO Electronic Glowing,.. Sight Pins on Bow or Crosshair's on, a Rifle.
UN-less they've changed the Laws, since the last time that, I've read it.
Why,. UN fair, advantage OVER, the Big Game animals, would be, MY,.. "guess" and,..
"Poaching" in AFTER Hours !
 
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Litehiker said:
Recently Sig/Sauer came out with their Sierra6 BDX line of scopes. These scopes are Bluetooth tech marvels with decent glass.

My choice for a long distance hunting scope (to 1,000 yards for antelope) would be the 3 - 18 x 44 Sierra6 BDX (Ballistic Data Exchange) paired with the SIG KILO300 BDX 10 x 42 range finding binoculars and a Kestrel 5700. ALL of these pieces of gear connect with each other with Bluetooth. Can I hear an "Amen!" for Bluetooth?

MODES OF USE FOR SIG SIERRA6 BDX SCOPES:
1.) as a stand-alone scope with main crosshars and "Christmas tree" dots reticle
2.) with a BDX range finding monocular or BDX binoculars giving you lighted vertical hold-over dots
3.) with a BDX rangefinder and the Kestrel 5700 for EXACT vertical and windage lighted hold points

You already use a rifle scope. You already carry binoculars. To the Sierra6 scopes just add SIG BDX monoculars or BDX binoculars and either SIG's Bluetooth weather meter or the Kestrel 5700 weather meter & ballistic engine with your rifle's exact ballistics for several loads. This gives you the windage and the vertical hold that has the added weather info in the final hold solutions. With the Kestrel you also get much more weather data and rifle/cartridge data for an optimum firing solution.

Currently i have a 6.5 PRC Browning X-Bolt Pro with a Bushnell LRTS 4.5 - 18 x 44 illuminated G3 reticle. Also a Bushnell ARC 1 Mile laser rangefinder 10 x 42 binoculars. Yeah, they work pretty well together because I know from range testing how to "adjust" for the binoculars' hold readout. Bushnell uses a "library" of 8 ballistic curves for ammo to give you ballpark vertical hold points for your cartridge. You still have to "true" your holds at the range in 50 yard increments from 200 to 800 yards (my shooting window) for more exact holds and still you have no windage info beyond your experience - or a Kestrel 5700. And if you have the Kestrel 5700 you just use its readout for perfect hold AFTER entering the range manually. "Old" tech gear with a new tech Kestrel 5700

So now you see "the beauty of Bluetooth" in SIG's optics - speed and accuracy.
Eric B.
BTW, SIG has other BDX scopes. All have "Level-Plex" internal lighted dots at the right and left ends of the horizontal crosshairs. Tilt too far left and the left dot lights up. Tilt back right and it goes out at the level position. Same for the other side. Yeah, I know, amazing.
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Why not go all the way and buy the TrackingPoint. It is an integrated rifle/scope/trigger system. Makes all the ranging and calculations for you and ONLY enables the trigger when the annimal is in sights and there is a kill shot. Otherwise, the trigger is disabled.
 
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I'm a fan of Sig products as well as Nightforce and Leupold. They all have quality products and the things you listed are all fine and techie fun stuff but you, as the hunter/rifleman, need to have some skill set to hit your target without those things. In the end, when the batteries are dead...whadya got??
 
Honestly, and maybe I'm too pessimistic, I see the Sig system as encouraging unethical behavior. I think for a lot of guys there's going to be a temptation to take shots well beyond what they have practiced and/or verified. Consider the following scenario:

Hunter has this system, he's zeroed and confirmed drops out to the 300 yard max range he's got in his home state back east. He doesn't realize he's 100 FPS off what the box claims for his ammo, because that's only about an inch difference (well inside his group size at that distance).

He's done his homework reasonably well, he thinks. He ranges and shoots a 10" rock when he gets there, 450 yards. Hit! He was towards the bottom of the rock, but a hit is a hit, further than anything he's ever shot before. "That's my limit," he says to himself.

Last day of the season, after a week of hard hunting, a buck steps out at 525 yards. Only 75 more than he said was his limit. How many hunters will resist the temptation of that little glowing dot of not-so-long-ago-NASA level ballistics calculation and computing power saying, "just hold here. It's easy!"

That 100 FPS is now 5" more drop at 525 than what the computer thinks, and we haven't even started talking about wind.

There's what I think is an unwarranted level of confidence in the technology when it puts the dot in the reticle. I think people have a much more reasonable understanding of their capabilities when they put a drop chart together or at least run their own calculations and turn the dial themselves. I think turning that elevation turret further than you ever have before is a much bigger deterrent to taking that unethical shot. I think people will put too much blind faith in that dot for a 600+ yard shot because the technology says "hold right here."
 
eric1115 said:
Honestly, and maybe I'm too pessimistic, I see the Sig system as encouraging unethical behavior. I think for a lot of guys there's going to be a temptation to take shots well beyond what they have practiced and/or verified. Consider the following scenario:

Hunter has this system, he's zeroed and confirmed drops out to the 300 yard max range he's got in his home state back east. He doesn't realize he's 100 FPS off what the box claims for his ammo, because that's only about an inch difference (well inside his group size at that distance).

He's done his homework reasonably well, he thinks. He ranges and shoots a 10" rock when he gets there, 450 yards. Hit! He was towards the bottom of the rock, but a hit is a hit, further than anything he's ever shot before. "That's my limit," he says to himself.

Last day of the season, after a week of hard hunting, a buck steps out at 525 yards. Only 75 more than he said was his limit. How many hunters will resist the temptation of that little glowing dot of not-so-long-ago-NASA level ballistics calculation and computing power saying, "just hold here. It's easy!"

That 100 FPS is now 5" more drop at 525 than what the computer thinks, and we haven't even started talking about wind.

There's what I think is an unwarranted level of confidence in the technology when it puts the dot in the reticle. I think people have a much more reasonable understanding of their capabilities when they put a drop chart together or at least run their own calculations and turn the dial themselves. I think turning that elevation turret further than you ever have before is a much bigger deterrent to taking that unethical shot. I think people will put too much blind faith in that dot for a 600+ yard shot because the technology says "hold right here."
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To add to this, if your fundamentals of marksmanship are trash then your impact is likely trash at distance. You can have the perfect firing solution but you jerk the trigger, anticipate, breathing is off etc, the shot could be a miss or a bad hit. A miss at 100 yds with bad fundamentals looks way better than a shot at 500 yards with bad fundamentals. I worry about it making people feel way more confident than their abilities prove them to be. But it's cool tech and maybe I'm wrong.
 
eric1115 said:
Honestly, and maybe I'm too pessimistic, I see the Sig system as encouraging unethical behavior. I think for a lot of guys there's going to be a temptation to take shots well beyond what they have practiced and/or verified. Consider the following scenario:

Hunter has this system, he's zeroed and confirmed drops out to the 300 yard max range he's got in his home state back east. He doesn't realize he's 100 FPS off what the box claims for his ammo, because that's only about an inch difference (well inside his group size at that distance).

He's done his homework reasonably well, he thinks. He ranges and shoots a 10" rock when he gets there, 450 yards. Hit! He was towards the bottom of the rock, but a hit is a hit, further than anything he's ever shot before. "That's my limit," he says to himself.

Last day of the season, after a week of hard hunting, a buck steps out at 525 yards. Only 75 more than he said was his limit. How many hunters will resist the temptation of that little glowing dot of not-so-long-ago-NASA level ballistics calculation and computing power saying, "just hold here. It's easy!"

That 100 FPS is now 5" more drop at 525 than what the computer thinks, and we haven't even started talking about wind.

There's what I think is an unwarranted level of confidence in the technology when it puts the dot in the reticle. I think people have a much more reasonable understanding of their capabilities when they put a drop chart together or at least run their own calculations and turn the dial themselves. I think turning that elevation turret further than you ever have before is a much bigger deterrent to taking that unethical shot. I think people will put too much blind faith in that dot for a 600+ yard shot because the technology says "hold right here."
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If your theoretical hunter is like most American hunters, he will aim high regardless and make a great shot. I don't think bagging on any new system is necessarily the right thing to do. Its a slippery slope leading us back to running game off cliffs with spears and rocks. Talking about longer shots on game I think what we have issue wise is more likely lots of people with no tools in hand to make shot adjustments taking to the field and using Kentucky windage shooting at game. I hear and see them every year in the Coues deer woods firing shot after shot at a deer they have no idea how to hit. If Litehiker like the Sig System I say go for it. Learn to use it, take a long range shooting class, practice your butt off, learn to call wind etc. If you don't like the system don't use it. Personally I think once people try them the technical overhead involved in practical use and issue that arise will cause these types of systems to fade from the market. I doubt Gunwerks is selling very many Revic Scopes (lots of tech), but they have sold a ton of their G7 BR2s (single press elevation and wind data) which a new version will soon be available.
 

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