This is CRAZY...

[John Klingenberg]

Ya, I went into the brass business in 2010 for a couple years. I'd buy from recycle yards and sort, clean and resize, resell. I was delivering to a lot of people around Austin at truck stops and gas stations. It felt like a drug deal too. Sometimes it was in the 10s of thousands so some real money changed hands and as Texas is a gun loving state, everyone was strapped. Lol

 

[BigDon]

A lot of people are justifiably upset/concerned about this. But the perspective I see is very 'Now'. This is Not a 'Now' problem. We are only just now feeling the pinch. This is a long term problem.

There will be some short term mitigation - gun sales will go down - 1. because there aren't any to buy And 2. If You can't get ammo - fewer people want to buy guns they can't actually shoot. Ammo and primers will start to show up. They'll be hard to find, though, until everyone's toilet paper stash closets are full of ammo, primers and powder and they stop hoarding. That won't be soon.

We went through this in the Yobama years - But that Was engineered, manipulated and artificial. THIS shortage is real. Freaked out masses suddenly figured out that the government's pledge to protect and serve was an illusion. They went out and bought guns for the first time to protect themselves. This dynamic is completely different and pressingly real to millions of new gun owners.

This a today, Now - And Tomorrow problem. We're Looking in to a deep dark hole - or maybe a bottomless pit. $1,000 primers look expensive right now. This time next year that might look cheap!

Toilet paper is a good example for us. In less than 3 or 4 weeks all the tp in America disappeared. We didn't see any new supply in Wyoming for over 90 days, and only now are the shelves at Sam's Club even reasonably stocked. You can only use and store so much tp, after all.

Ammo, primers, powder, etc...slower supply chain, and far different economics all mean that the difficulties of the YoMama years were just a taste of what we're experiencing today. Those dynamics also mean that the TP lesson is misleading. There will be nearly endless demand to fill this divot that far exceeds the capabilities of the supply chain.

Hunker down....this is a Long way from over.

(Sorry to be such a downer.)

 

[longrangehunterII]

If people would STOP paying these ridiculous prices they would come back down to $41.99-$56.00/1000.

 

[Old man 257]

Well said! Buyers set the market for everything in a free society. When buyers won't buy, prices drop. If nobody wants a product bad enough to pay a profitable price for the seller/manufacturer, the product is discontinued or the business fails.

What's amazing to me, looking at GB tonight, is how badly people want to shoot. I sort of get the panic on common military type ammo they think they need to defend themselves. But paying 180 bucks for 147 eldm? I like the 6.5 caliber, but dang if I like it enough to pay that! I saw common creedmoor dies going for over 200 bucks! Insane

Last year people have made some real bad choices this Panic Is one of them so I guess we all have to live with it and how it get better

 

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It's a free market'..., which supply and demand drive's... but... before I'd pay that kind of money for the aforementioned items, I'd use a sharp stick and bite some critter to death. Just my 0.02

 

[ndking1126]

Indeed it is. Though no one is required to provide it for us. We aren't entitled to it. If someone has it, and we do not, we are not justified in the taking of it.

To clarify, I'm not advocating that taking it should be allowed or condoned. Just making the point that if someone is willing to pay a really high price for an item that will be used recreationally, you cant really call it price gouging - an item is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. There's no rule book or formula that sets an item's worth. All the power is in the hands of the buyer when dealing with non-essential items or services like this. Regarding something like water after an emergency, the buyer has no option but to buy it because it's a necessity to stay alive. If the seller is willing to take advantage of that fact, that's when price gouging is a thing, IMO. I'm not trying to convince you to agree, just clarifying my comment.

 

[Pdyson]

I refuse to pay it! The greedy SOBs can eat them for all I care. When this is all over I will remember those that tried to gouge me. They won't get my dollar and I'll tell everyone I know what they did....just like Cheaper than Dirt

 

[Poe]

Just another reason to support the small local shops whenever you can

 

[airfoil]

I just received a Email from Bruno shooters supply, who I have done business with before.
They are selling 10 lb. lots of powders for around 600$...bet it's going quickly.

I'm thinking about building a flint-lock rifle...I could make blackpowder and bullets at home.

I did purchase a air rifle capable of taking small game...

Fasten your safety belts, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

 

[West Calamus]

It's a free market'..., which supply and demand drive's... but... before I'd pay that kind of money for the aforementioned items, I'd use a sharp stick and bite some critter to death. Just my 0.02

Reminds me of when we used to stick wild picks in a trap with just a knife, of course that was in my younger days!

 

[Taco John]

Reminds me of when we used to stick wild picks in a trap with just a knife, of course that was in my younger days!

What does that mean?

 

[crystalgayleguy]

I heard no proof. That Remington going under, They shut their primer operation down. Some are saying that this is part of the problem.

I heard that cci makes rem primers for them

 

[crystalgayleguy]

I wonder on gunbroker that real people are paying their prices

 

[Deleted member 48126]

What does that mean?

Hes referencing the other post about going hunting with a pointy stick instead of paying these ammo and components prices. West calamus was saying he does something similar hog hunting with a knife.