Is my Bergara Bergarbage?

[skipglo]

Super frustrated. Review of this rifle and reading past experiences make it look fine, but I'm wondering if my barrel is defective? I did a proper break in procedure.

Bergara B14 HMR in 300WinMag. Gunwerks brass that's now on it's second firing. Berger 215s with H1000 powder and CCI 250s.

I try to load to perfection. My shoulder bumping, trimming, and seating is all within .001.


I fire formed my first 100 pieces and gathered data working up a ladder.The groups were all pretty terrible never even reaching 1 MOA but I figured was because of new brass. Now that I have my first round of fire formed brass I loaded as perfect as possible I'm still shooting god awful groups. It doesn't matter if I lock it up in a sled, shoot from a bench, or prone with a bipod.

My Pro Chrono 2 is showing an ES of nearly 200fps.


What in the world is going on? This has been incredibly expensive to shoot such garbage and still nowhere near a good load. Factory ammo wasn't match grade but still shot no better than 1.5MOA.

Advice?

How many grs of powder and check your scale against another one first. Es like that is telling me it's a charge issue.

 

[adam32]

Update- 100% going in. Had a sniper acquaintance come shoot it. Walking up "It's probably shooter error or your load."

One 3 shot group later "*** is wrong with your rifle."

Smith checked the bore with a camera and said it didn't look right.

What did he say didn't look right?

 

[NeedForSpeed]

Having trouble even getting an RMA. Left on hold for ever, website issues...I don't think Bergara is for me.


On the plus side, yay I get to gun shop. Any recommendations on something similar in 300WinMag with a sub MOA guarantee that actually shoots it? Needs to be capable of accepting a thread on Dead Air muzzle brake.

i bought a Fierce Carbon Fury 300 win mag and it shot .5 to .6 moa with Barnes 180 gn, Nosler Accubonds, Hornady ELDX 205 and Bergers
I think it a great rifle and with their brake it recoils like a 243 Win

 

[Dean2]

i bought a Fierce Carbon Fury 300 win mag and it shot .5 to .6 moa with Barnes 180 gn, Nosler Accubonds, Hornady ELDX 205 and Bergers
I think it a great rifle and with their brake it recoils like a 243 Win

They are a great rifle but the Bergera is 900 bucks and the Fierce almost 2600. If a guy has that kind of scratch there are lots of great choices.

 

[338 dude]

Having trouble even getting an RMA. Left on hold for ever, website issues...I don't think Bergara is for me.


On the plus side, yay I get to gun shop. Any recommendations on something similar in 300WinMag with a sub MOA guarantee that actually shoots it? Needs to be capable of accepting a thread on Dead Air muzzle brake.

Tikka

 

[waspocrew]

I was thinking of buying a Bergara until I read your comment. What other rifles are in the same price range?

Tikka CTR all day.

 

[waspocrew]

PS- if you're looking for a 300 WM, this is a steal. My Havak 6 Creed shoots tiny groups with factory ammo.

Spf

Bought this a few weeks ago from another member. Seekins HAVAK 300 win mag. Unfired still brand new. Mounted scope ready to start load development and my daughter talked me out of one of my other guns. So, since this was for her it's back up for sale or trade. Has all tags and hard case from...

www.longrangehunting.com

 

[Mallardhammer]

Hope you get this all sorted out. Sounds like Bergara is going to take care of you, but 200 ES is just bizarre. I've shot hand scooped full cases of BP under a hollow base wadcutter going backwards better than that lol

 

[DJ Fergus]

I remember when the bergara hit the market. I was talked about as it was going to put Remington out of business. Either way, it is what it is. I do have another aquantance who struggled to find a load for a bergara. I'm to the point where I believe a mass produced rifle is just that. I don't really believe that any of the mass produced factory rifle puts out a significantly higher percentage of tack drivers than the others do. Doesn't matter to me much anymore. I'm probably going to rebarrel I right off the bat no matter what it is.

 

[rockytop65]

Super frustrated. Review of this rifle and reading past experiences make it look fine, but I'm wondering if my barrel is defective? I did a proper break in procedure.

Bergara B14 HMR in 300WinMag. Gunwerks brass that's now on it's second firing. Berger 215s with H1000 powder and CCI 250s.

I try to load to perfection. My shoulder bumping, trimming, and seating is all within .001.


I fire formed my first 100 pieces and gathered data working up a ladder.The groups were all pretty terrible never even reaching 1 MOA but I figured was because of new brass. Now that I have my first round of fire formed brass I loaded as perfect as possible I'm still shooting god awful groups. It doesn't matter if I lock it up in a sled, shoot from a bench, or prone with a bipod.

My Pro Chrono 2 is showing an ES of nearly 200fps.


What in the world is going on? This has been incredibly expensive to shoot such garbage and still nowhere near a good load. Factory ammo wasn't match grade but still shot no better than 1.5MOA.

Advice?

I say there junk had 1 couldn't get it to moa with anything including factor ammo. An they wouldn't back it. Never again

 

[Dean2]

I remember when the bergara hit the market. I was talked about as it was going to put Remington out of business. Either way, it is what it is. I do have another aquantance who struggled to find a load for a bergara. I'm to the point where I believe a mass produced rifle is just that. I don't really believe that any of the mass produced factory rifle puts out a significantly higher percentage of tack drivers than the others do. Doesn't matter to me much anymore. I'm probably going to rebarrel I right off the bat no matter what it is.

If that is your perspective why not just build each rifle. Get the action, stock and barrel you want and put them together. A savage action, for lower cost builds, is hard to beat. For lower cost production guns complete, I still believe tikka,, Savage and weatherby make on average far more tack drivers than anyone else in the market.

 

[DJ Fergus]

If that is your perspective why not just build each rifle. Get the action, stock and barrel you want and put them together. A savage action, for lower cost builds, is hard to beat. For lower cost production guns complete, I still believe tikka,, Savage and weatherby make on average far more tack drivers than anyone else in the market.

That's pretty much what I do. I find a beater for dirt cheap and make it into what I want and usually end up with less money in it than the top tier riles of the big manufactures.

 

[DJ Fergus]

That's pretty much what I do. I find a beater for dirt cheap and make it into what I want and usually end up with less money in it than the top tier riles of the big manufactures.

I like Savage actions. I've had Tikka as well and they are a fine action

 

[101stCurrahee]

What did he say didn't look right?

Sorry the picture quality turned out even worse after he sent them through text. He said the chamber had a bunch of circles in the metal like it was cut poorly?

He also said if I just cleaned it and shot only 10 rounds through it, it was strangely crudded up. He said the camera was showing pieces of copper, and for some reason a lot of lead like it was stripping an unusual amount off the bullet.