What constitutes “inherently accurate “?

[TwoMore]

I would call it more inherently efficient than I would "accurate" even an UN-effficient cartridge can be accurate

 

[Mach 1]

I would call it more efficient than I would "accurate" even an un-effficient cartridge can be accurate

I'd disagree. Efficiency makes consistency and being consistent is being accurate. Some cartridges are just more inherently accurate by the initial design of the cartridge.

 

[MudRunner2005]

The 6br and variants are inherently accurate. It's pretty undeniable. Look at the benchrest cartridges racking up wins and records. It's sad but cartridges like the 6.5x284 is all but dead in 1000 yrd
Benchrest competitions. The 6 dashers and 6bra s Are the way to go. And it can't be dismissed as a fad since they broke the hell outa the previous records. Look at 100 and 200 meter competitions. The 6ppc has ruled the ranges for years. It's just inherently accurate.

No they aren't... There is no such thing as "inherent accuracy"... There are just better designs.

 

[Mach 1]

No they aren't... There is no such thing as "inherent accuracy"... There are just better designs.

Better designs that make them inherently more accurate

 

[Deleted member 103481]

We really gonna do this again?

 

[FEENIX]

Like it or not there is an inherent accuracy in cartridges, rifles, bullets, etc., that is relative to "x" relationship.

 

[FEENIX]

We really gonna do this again?

LOL!

 

[Big Cherry]

Take the .308 Winchester, many people & articles claim that it is inherently accurate, how so?

 

[Wedgy]

There is NO such thing as inherent accuracy when it comes to firearms...Period...Full stop.

He said cartridges, not firearms.
A better design is more accurate = inherently more accurate.
"are we really going to do this again" Right ??
Now back to the "warped sense of humor" thread
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/warped-sense-of-humor.3980770/

 

[LVJ76]

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Better designs that make them inherently more accurate

For me that terms implies that no load development is required, when in reality all rifles and cartridges require it to get the most accuracy possible. Unless 2" or 3" groups are ok at a 100 yards then maybe some cartridges would be.

I think Figjam hit the nail on the head with some rifles being inherently accurate and not the cartridge itself.

There is one exception, the 6.5 Creedmoor

 

[Mach 1]

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For me that terms implies that no load development is required, when in reality all rifles and cartridges require it to get the most accuracy possible. Unless 2" or 3" groups are ok at a 100 yards then maybe some cartridges would be.

I think Figjam hit the nail on the head with some rifles being inherently accurate and not the cartridge itself.

There is one exception, the 6.5 Creedmoor

Still disagree. Why do you not see anything but 6br variants at national benchrest competitions??? There
Are Borden Stiller and a crap ton of bat actions. There are bartlein Kriegers rock creek and lederer barrels, a lot of them smithed by different outstanding smiths. So they are all different rifles. Even the scopes vary greatly. The only thing common about these precision rifles is the chamberings. So to say the 6br family of cases isn't inherently accurate is just wrong. No one shoots the 308 anymore for decent reason even though in its day it was an awesome benchrest cartridge. Today we have cartridges that are specifically designed from the beginning to be more accurate than its predecessor, which makes it inherently accurate. The 6br family of rounds are
Meant to deliver great paper punching accuracy, not to bring down an elk and 750 yards.

 

[LVJ76]

Still disagree. Why do you not see anything but 6br variants at national benchrest competitions??? There
Are Borden Stiller and a crap ton of bat actions. There are bartlein Kriegers rock creek and lederer barrels, a lot of them smithed by different outstanding smiths. So they are all different rifles. Even the scopes vary greatly. The only thing common about these precision rifles is the chamberings. So to say the 6br family of cases isn't inherently accurate is just wrong. No one shoots the 308 anymore for decent reason even though in its day it was an awesome benchrest cartridge. Today we have cartridges that are specifically designed from the beginning to be more accurate than its predecessor, which makes it inherently accurate. The 6br family of rounds are
Meant to deliver great paper punching accuracy, not to bring down an elk and 750 yards.

I understand what you are saying, I just have a different point of view. Again, all cartridges still require some load development. Now, some of the 6br cartridges are very accurate but because of the quality barrels made for them, if it wasn't for those hogh quality barrells they provably won't shoot as good.

We just have different opinions, heck we both might be wrong.

 

[MudRunner2005]

Better designs that make them inherently more accurate

No...Simply...No. Barrels and rifles are accurate, cartridges cannot be. And even then, nothing about them is "inherent"...It all requires work and development to cohesively function as a whole unit to produce what we call "accuracy". This also involves the shooter's ability. Because without the barrel and the rest of the rifle, the cartridge won't do anything.

 

[FEENIX]

Better designs that make them inherently more accurate

Yep! That's the cause and effect relationship.